| --- Log opened Fri Sep 19 00:00:13 2008 |
| 00:36 | <@ToxicFrog> | <ToxicFrog> Kickass. |
| 00:36 | <@ToxicFrog> | <ToxicFrog> I cannot thank you enough for doing all this testing. |
| 00:36 | <@ToxicFrog> | <sanooj> same here: thanks to you for putting in the time to work on the code. |
| 00:36 | <@ToxicFrog> | <sanooj> this will be the best binio library evar. |
| 00:36 | <@ToxicFrog> | This. |
| 00:37 | <@ToxicFrog> | This is why I code. |
| 00:37 | | * Shoukanjuu claps. |
| 00:37 | <@ToxicFrog> | The rush of knowing that stuff I've written (1) works, (2) works well and (3) is actually being used out in the world by other people. |
| 00:38 | <@ToxicFrog> | Accept no substitutes. |
| 00:41 | < Shoukanjuu> | \o/ |
| 00:42 | < Vornicus> | I think that's why the rest of us code too. |
| 00:48 | <@ToxicFrog> | You seem to need more as time goes by, though. |
| 00:48 | <@ToxicFrog> | Eight years ago, the hit from knowing that my code was running on a live server or had made into a release build was enough. |
| 00:48 | <@ToxicFrog> | These days I need actual interaction with the users. |
| 00:51 | | * ToxicFrog creates a hugely verbose error message |
| 00:51 | <@ToxicFrog> | struct: runtime error in generated function |
| 00:51 | <@ToxicFrog> | This is at some level an internal error in the struct library |
| 00:51 | <@ToxicFrog> | It could be a genuine error in the emitted code (in which case this is a code |
| 00:51 | <@ToxicFrog> | generation bug) |
| 00:51 | <@ToxicFrog> | Alternately, it could be that you gave it a malformed format string, a bad |
| 00:51 | <@ToxicFrog> | file descriptor, or data that does not match the given format (in which case |
| 00:51 | <@ToxicFrog> | it is an argument validation bug and you should be getting an error anyways). |
| 00:51 | <@ToxicFrog> | Please report this as a bug and include the following information: |
| 00:52 | <@ToxicFrog> | Followed by entries for the error reported by the interpreter, the format string given, the source generated from the format string (which can be very large), and a stack traceback. |
| 00:52 | < Vornicus> | awesome |
| 00:56 | | * Consul asks someone really nicely for voice so he can paste a URL with some funny in it. |
| 00:57 | | mode/#code [+oo Vornicus Consul] by McMartin |
| 00:57 | | * McMartin mutters at Boost |
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| 01:00 | <@Consul> | http://www.netfunny.com/rhf/jokes/91q3/cerrors.html |
| 01:01 | <@Consul> | My first IBM PC (an XT!) was built by a friend of mine, and he gave me a bunch of text files with jokes and humor. That was one of them. |
| 01:01 | <@Consul> | That was... A long time ago. |
| 01:02 | <@ToxicFrog> | TODO: |
| 01:02 | <@ToxicFrog> | - better distinction between user error, environment error, and internal error |
| 01:02 | <@ToxicFrog> | - update the README some more |
| 01:03 | <@Vornicus> | I've seen that one. |
| 01:03 | <@ToxicFrog> | - fix the bug where reading signed ints will return only negative values |
| 01:03 | <@Vornicus> | "Too many errors on one line (make fewer)" <--- is my favorite. |
| 01:04 | <@ToxicFrog> | "a typedef name was a complete surprise to me at this point in your program" is also good, along with ""Volatile" and "Register" are not miscible" |
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| 02:58 | <@ToxicFrog> | It's funny. |
| 02:58 | <@ToxicFrog> | I consider the README for vstruct to be a rather terse, slapdash thing I tossed together when I needed something for the first beta. |
| 02:59 | <@ToxicFrog> | Sanooj considers it a concise and well-written reference that has enabled him to write his crushing array of hell-tests with basically no examination of the actual code. |
| 03:30 | <@McMartin> | "This spec is vague. I shall make it do both." |
| 03:32 | <@ToxicFrog> | Heh. |
| 03:32 | <@ToxicFrog> | One interesting thing that's come out of the testing is that the parser accepts a superset of the language specified in the README; there's lots of places where you can play fast and loose with requirements for delimiting and whatnot. |
| 03:33 | <@ToxicFrog> | This has also resulted in a few bug reports where the reply was "actually, according to the docs, you aren't meant to do that in the first place, so its failure is not a bug" |
| 03:33 | <@ToxicFrog> | (although in a few cases the failure mode was) |
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| 10:57 | <@TheWatcher> | Anyone here know anything about automount? |
| 11:20 | <@Serah> | Unfortunatly I know little about anything. |
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| 14:30 | <@ToxicFrog> | My knowledge of automount is that I plug things in and it works. |
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| 15:05 | <@Doctor_Nick> | RAAAAAAANDOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMM |
| 15:30 | <@TheWatcher> | TF: yeah, well |
| 15:31 | <@TheWatcher> | In this situation, I have /home being handled by automount with it pulling the info from NIS. Unfortunately, I also need to have /home/choices mounted |
| 15:33 | <@TheWatcher> | I am unable to locate documentation on how I can do both |
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| 17:10 | <@jerith> | 17:59 < psi> Hofstadter's book elevates recursion (in the broadest sense of |
| 17:10 | <@jerith> | 17:59 < psi> self-reference) to exalted heights, leading to Andrew Plotkin's recursive |
| 17:10 | <@jerith> | 17:59 < psi> definition of recursion: "If you already know what recursion is, just |
| 17:10 | <@jerith> | 17:59 < psi> remember the answer. Otherwise, find someone who is standing closer to |
| 17:10 | <@jerith> | 17:59 < psi> Douglas Hofstadter than you are; then ask him or her what recursion is." |
| 17:21 | <@gnolam> | :D |
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| 17:41 | <@gnolam> | By the way, am I the only one who thinks that "Kernel Panic" sounds like an early '90s coin-op? |
| 17:41 | <@gnolam> | ... arr. |
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| 17:43 | <@ToxicFrog> | <sanooj> wonder where I'm leaking memory. |
| 17:43 | <@ToxicFrog> | <sanooj> forgot to turn off the tester and my box started swapping |
| 17:43 | <@ToxicFrog> | <sanooj> on the up side, the read.i works great. :) |
| 17:43 | <@ToxicFrog> | <ToxicFrog> Ummm |
| 17:43 | <@ToxicFrog> | <ToxicFrog> How many tests is it doing? |
| 17:43 | <@ToxicFrog> | <ToxicFrog> The struct library caches the results of compiles |
| 17:43 | <@ToxicFrog> | <sanooj> bajillions |
| 17:43 | <@ToxicFrog> | <sanooj> ... |
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| 19:46 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | Might want to soft reference those. |
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