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| 11:25 | <@Reiver> | Okay, so, question. I have a newly assembled computer with me that is powering up, and I have confirmed it has beep codes functioning (by taking the RAM out and having it beep). But I'm not getting any graphics, from either onboard or card, and the computer isn't /doing/ anything. |
| 11:26 | <@Reiver> | What am I doing wrong? |
| 11:26 | < Vornicus> | Is the CPU fan plugged in? |
| 11:26 | <@Reiver> | Yeah, it's spinning merrily |
| 11:26 | < Vornicus> | okay. |
| 11:26 | <@TheWatcher> | Is the PSU powerful enough? |
| 11:27 | <@Reiver> | Brand new 500W. |
| 11:27 | < Doctor_Nick> | can somone give me ops? I want to link a video of george takei holding another mans penis |
| 11:27 | <@Reiver> | Sounds an excelent reason to never give you ops, ever. |
| 11:28 | <@Reiver> | Anyhow. |
| 11:28 | <@Reiver> | It's just... sitting there ;_; |
| 11:28 | <@AnnoDomini> | Are all the cards put in properly? I mean, check if the things are properly impressed into the slots. |
| 11:28 | <@Reiver> | I've pulled the gfx card out completely, so all it has at the moment is CPU, RAM, and a CD drive. |
| 11:29 | | * Reiver even unplugged the HD to see if that made it bite, but no. |
| 11:30 | <@AnnoDomini> | Are all the PSU sockets on the motherboard plugged in, if there is more than one? |
| 11:30 | <@Reiver> | Yeah, I'd made that mistake initially, and it wasn't even giving beep codes >_> |
| 11:30 | <@Reiver> | But they're all plugged in, now. |
| 11:30 | <@Reiver> | (I'd forgotten the little 4-pin in a fit of oversight.) |
| 11:31 | <@TheWatcher> | hm |
| 11:31 | <@TheWatcher> | Cleared the bios? |
| 11:31 | <@Reiver> | I haven't even /seen/ the BIOS yet... |
| 11:31 | <@TheWatcher> | I mean on the hardware |
| 11:31 | <@Reiver> | No. |
| 11:31 | <@AnnoDomini> | I'd disassemble everything and put it back together again to see if it helps. |
| 11:32 | <@TheWatcher> | There may be a corrupt setting in there that's preventing the bios kicking in |
| 11:32 | <@Reiver> | All signs of life are the HD light blinking on once at powerup, the keyboard lights blinking on once, and then that's all she wrote. |
| 11:32 | <@Reiver> | Hm |
| 11:32 | <@AnnoDomini> | Pillage a BIOS chip from some other mobo. |
| 11:32 | | * Reiver attempts to find out how you boot that. |
| 11:32 | <@Reiver> | And Anno: I've done that with everything short of the CPU. |
| 11:32 | <@Reiver> | But on the basis that the CPU is giving beep codes, I'm hoping that makes it alive. |
| 11:33 | <@TheWatcher> | With a lot of boards it's a case of turning off the power at the wall, switching a jumper, switching it back, powering up again |
| 11:33 | <@TheWatcher> | but check the motherboard manual |
| 11:33 | <@Reiver> | Okay.4 |
| 11:33 | <@Reiver> | I've also had suggested dodgy ram? |
| 11:34 | < Vornicus> | it'd have to be /really fucking dodgy/ if you can't even get to bios |
| 11:35 | <@Reiver> | It wouldn't cause a beep code? |
| 11:35 | <@TheWatcher> | usually bad ram will, yes |
| 11:35 | < Vornicus> | It'd probably beep something fierce at you, if it's /that/ bad. |
| 11:35 | <@TheWatcher> | If it's seriously b0rken |
| 11:35 | <@TheWatcher> | otherwise the bios will be able to get to the memory check stage at least |
| 11:36 | < Vornicus> | Memtest86 is for subtly bad ram. |
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| 11:36 | <@Reiver> | Yeah, I can't even load memtest~ |
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| 12:12 | <@Reiver> | Okay, now I'm scared. |
| 12:12 | <@Reiver> | It's booting up, and instantly shutting down again? |
| 12:13 | <@AnnoDomini> | Move your computer off the ancient Indian burial ground. |
| 12:21 | | * Reiver tries to work out /which/ cable is the one he's miss wired, gives up and does the lot again~ |
| 12:22 | <@Shoukanjuu> | I've had that happen to me once or thrice. |
| 12:24 | <@Shoukanjuu> | I think it was tht the power supply cabled were not properly seated to the logic board, or that the power supply itself was being bad. Blue and white G4's motherboard didn't LIKE power supplies, so it destroyed them left and right. |
| 12:24 | <@Reiver> | Hm. Well, it's a start - cheers. |
| 12:50 | <@Reiver> | Well, that's the power fault fixed. |
| 12:50 | <@Reiver> | ... and no improvement elsewhere, /why is this not booting/ ;_; |
| 12:51 | | * Reiver twitches. |
| 12:56 | <@TheWatcher> | Reiv: check that none of the motherboard mounting posts are shorting other tracks |
| 12:57 | <@TheWatcher> | in particular, if it's a new board you just put in, make syure you didn't forget to remove one where there's no hole anymore |
| 13:01 | <@Reiver> | You mean take the motherboard completely out and doublecheck I don't have any erronious mounting brackets? |
| 13:02 | <@Reiver> | ...Would that let a machine boot but not load? I'd have thought that would demand it shut itself down again. |
| 13:02 | <@TheWatcher> | Depends what's shorting |
| 13:02 | | * Reiver twitches. Twitches. |
| 13:03 | <@Shoukanjuu> | <.<? |
| 13:03 | <@Reiver> | O-kay, den. I shall... disconnect all the cables and take the motherboard back out. ;_; |
| 13:31 | <@TheWatcher> | any progress? |
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| 14:07 | <@Reiver> | TW: None. ;_; |
| 14:10 | <@TheWatcher> | Hm |
| 14:11 | <@TheWatcher> | By this point I'd be tempted to declare it DOA and start arranging refunds |
| 14:14 | <@Reiver> | My parents have waited a month for this thing >_> |
| 14:23 | <@ToxicFrog> | Oh, this is annoying |
| 14:23 | <@ToxicFrog> | Apparently there's an issue with the Fedora 8 RTL8187B wireless driver: it won't talk WEP or WPA |
| 14:23 | <@ToxicFrog> | I know it's not the card, because if I run Ubuntu in a VM and USB-passthrough the card to it, it works. |
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| 16:53 | <@gnolam> | Hey, Red Alert 1 as a free download. Neat. |
| 17:00 | <@ToxicFrog> | VirtualBox gets another cookie |
| 17:02 | <@AnnoDomini> | gnolam: With cinematics or without? |
| 17:04 | <@gnolam> | Complete ISOs, AFAICT. |
| 17:04 | <@gnolam> | http://www.ea.com/redalert/news-detail.jsp?id=62 |
| 17:06 | <@AnnoDomini> | Not bad download speeds. |
| 17:06 | <@ToxicFrog> | Hmm. |
| 17:06 | <@ToxicFrog> | Running three OSes at once is causing my laptop to thrash slightly. |
| 17:08 | <@gnolam> | Congratulations. Exporting JPEGs from NEFs is making this desktop computer thrash, freeze up and then bluescreen. |
| 17:11 | <@TheWatcher> | Anyone willing to try breaking a perl program for me? |
| 17:12 | <@ToxicFrog> | ...big NEFs, or just a small desktop? |
| 17:12 | <@ToxicFrog> | (also, by "slightly" I mean "I had to switch to text mode and use VBoxManage to shut one of them down, because X was unusable") |
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| 18:37 | <@gnolam> | ToxicFrog: 3872x2592, ~9 MB a piece. |
| 18:37 | <@gnolam> | And this computer is getting more senile by the day. |
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