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| 00:28 | <@ToxicFrog> | McMartin: what, in the user-agent? I wouldn't have thought so. |
| 00:28 | <@ToxicFrog> | Certainly Opera has "pretend to be {FF,IE}" options |
| 00:30 | <@AnnoDomini> | It can look alike to FF. |
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| 05:34 | <@Reiver> | Just imagine the media shitstorm that would cause, though. |
| 05:34 | <@Reiver> | OMG IE STOLE FF CODE HAHAHA PWNT |
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| 06:13 | < Doctor_Nick> | wait |
| 06:13 | < Doctor_Nick> | what |
| 06:14 | <@Reiver> | Read up more often. |
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| 06:14 | < Doctor_Nick> | those sure are alot of words |
| 06:14 | <@Reiver> | Learn to read first, then. |
| 06:15 | < Doctor_Nick> | i am using text to speech and speech to text to chat because i never learned how to type or read |
| 06:17 | <@Reiver> | Of course you did. |
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| 13:30 | | * TheWatcher ponders how to document variadic arguments in doxygen |
| 14:46 | <@Shoukanjuu> | This guy on this forum think that Microsoft cares that he won't buy a 3rd 360. |
| 14:51 | <@Shoukanjuu> | http://forums.gamewinners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=569388 |
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| 15:17 | <@MyCatVerbs> | 'Zactly the wrong thing to be doing, in the long run. |
| 15:17 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Each time he sends another one back, it costs MS a little more money. |
| 15:18 | <@Shoukanjuu> | But at the end of the day, it's either making money, or making slightly LESS money |
| 15:18 | <@Shoukanjuu> | Which, as I see it, is still a win/win |
| 15:19 | <@MyCatVerbs> | No, he wasn't actually *buying* these things. |
| 15:20 | <@Shoukanjuu> | Paying money to fix something enough so consumers will continue buying it |
| 15:20 | <@MyCatVerbs> | He was sending them back because they were repeatedly failing under warranty. |
| 15:20 | <@Shoukanjuu> | I read wrong, then. .-. |
| 15:20 | <@MyCatVerbs> | In his case, I would presume they're in the hole already, since every replacement unit they send out costs money. |
| 15:21 | <@Shoukanjuu> | Well, he payed shipping >_> |
| 15:21 | <@Shoukanjuu> | That's gotta cover something XD; |
| 15:22 | <@Shoukanjuu> | Perhaps it was because what he said in the last paragraph, about how he will buy one last Xbox |
| 15:22 | <@Shoukanjuu> | Which kinda alludes to him buying multiple 360s |
| 15:23 | <@Shoukanjuu> | alludes isn't the word I'm looking for, but I hope it gets the point across >_>; |
| 15:36 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Jah. |
| 15:36 | <@MyCatVerbs> | He was saying he was going to buy a used one from Gamestop, on which MS collect no revenue. |
| 15:37 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Presumably he was expecting it to be more likely to work than the replacement units that MS' customer service were shipping. |
| 15:37 | <@Shoukanjuu> | Yah |
| 15:38 | <@Shoukanjuu> | But microsoft still got money at the beginning of the cycle because it was bought... |
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| 17:12 | <@jerith> | So, unit tests. |
| 17:13 | <@jerith> | Just had a minor disagreement with a coworker. |
| 17:13 | <@Shoukanjuu> | Oh? |
| 17:13 | <@jerith> | I want my tests to not spew anything other than the test framework's output to the screen unless I tell it to. |
| 17:15 | <@Shoukanjuu> | http://www.superwarehouse.com/Lenovo_3000_J200_9690_Desktop/969084U/po/1507201 >_> |
| 17:16 | <@Shoukanjuu> | This is my server box. |
| 17:17 | <@Shoukanjuu> | I bought it months ago with the "We might need it and if we don't I'll do something else with it and if we did, we have it" |
| 17:17 | <@Shoukanjuu> | Sort of thing |
| 17:19 | <@Shoukanjuu> | We don't need it anymore |
| 17:19 | <@Shoukanjuu> | So I'm upgrading it to be used as a gaming rig |
| 17:19 | <@ToxicFrog> | jerith: that seems sensical. |
| 17:20 | <@Shoukanjuu> | And since I'm horrible at keeping up with the time, hardware wise |
| 17:20 | <@jerith> | If I want debugging info (spammy logs or whatever) I'll turn 'em on and run the tests again. |
| 17:20 | <@Shoukanjuu> | I thought I'd ask around for people who aren't |
| 17:20 | <@ToxicFrog> | Use a UT-specific printf that outputs only if additional output is requested. |
| 17:21 | <@ToxicFrog> | (that's how it works here - the UT_STATUS macro generates output if the test command line includes the word "status", and no-ops otherwise) |
| 17:21 | <@jerith> | Hmm. |
| 17:22 | <@jerith> | I usually have a "DEBUG_OUTPUT" constant or something. |
| 17:26 | <@ToxicFrog> | I prefer mechanisms that don't require a recompile. |
| 17:27 | <@ToxicFrog> | This way, .ut memory runs the memory tests with framework output only, and .ut memory status runs the memory tests with extended status information. |
| 17:28 | <@jerith> | The point here is moot, since this stuff is mostly in Ruby. |
| 17:32 | <@jerith> | Anyways, I'd rather not have to struggle through spam to see if my tests passed. |
| 17:33 | <@jerith> | Any failures are printed at the end of the run, but we usually run multiple tests at once. |
| 17:33 | <@ToxicFrog> | Yes, which is why it's not on by default. |
| 17:35 | | * jerith nods. |
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| 18:46 | <@Shoukanjuu> | >__> |
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| 22:04 | <@McMartin> | http://blogs.msdn.com/slippman/archive/2004/08/11/212768.aspx |
| 22:04 | <@McMartin> | More reasons to dislike C++ |
| 22:07 | | * AnnoDomini understands little of the programmerspeak. |
| 22:15 | <@Shoukanjuu> | I...I thonk I understand |
| 22:15 | <@Shoukanjuu> | Though apparently I don't know how to spell. Perhaps that is a valid trade off. |
| 22:17 | <@Vornicus> | ambiguity is so awesome. |
| 22:19 | <@ToxicFrog> | AnnoDomini: basically: templates overloaded the class keyword for their parameters - eg, you write template <class T> rather than template <type T> or the like, even though T can be a primitive type. |
| 22:19 | <@ToxicFrog> | Then it turns out that some expressions within a template are ambigouous and the compiler is resolving things that should be declarations as expressions. |
| 22:19 | <@ToxicFrog> | So they introduce another keyword, typename, to fix this. |
| 22:19 | <@AnnoDomini> | (What's this? Law of literate uncertainty? If you understand, you cannot spell it, and if you can spell it, you can't understand it?) |
| 22:20 | <@ToxicFrog> | Then they go back and adjust the grammar for template declarations so that you can also use typename there, so template <class T> and template <typename T> are both legal. |
| 22:23 | <@AnnoDomini> | I see. Maybe. |
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| --- Log closed Fri Jul 25 00:00:57 2008 |