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04:12 | | * ToxicFrog comments struct.compile: -- this is a crime against god and man |
04:13 | | * McMartin goes to set some dinosaurs on fire |
04:13 | <@McMartin> | Or rather, to acquire some dinosaurs, for the purpose of setting them on fire. |
04:13 | <@ToxicFrog> | Also, design question, crossposted from #lua. |
04:14 | <@ToxicFrog> | At present, all widths are in bytes, which seemed reasonable at first since the underlying IO only supports byte resolution and adding bit res is a pain. |
04:15 | <@ToxicFrog> | However! For the fixed point format, bit widths are actually meaningful, provided the value as a whole is byte aligned. |
04:15 | <@ToxicFrog> | Furthermore, mandating bytes for everything makes it harder to add bit res support to the library later. |
04:15 | <@ToxicFrog> | On the other hand, using bit widths means the string formats become...unpleasant. |
04:17 | <@ToxicFrog> | The obvious solution appears to be to present a means for the user to choose which unit each object is using. |
04:17 | <@ToxicFrog> | As a first cut at this: lower case is bytes, upper case is bits. |
04:17 | <@ToxicFrog> | So u4 p3.1 is equivalent to U32 P24.8 |
04:17 | <@ToxicFrog> | Thoughts? |
04:18 | <@Vornicus> | how about u4 P24.8? is that also equivalent? |
04:19 | <@ToxicFrog> | Yes. |
04:19 | <@ToxicFrog> | You can freely mix them. |
04:19 | <@Vornicus> | ok |
04:19 | | * Vornicus is fine with tht |
04:20 | <@ToxicFrog> | The one potential problem I can see here is that the seek operators don't have upper case variants: @ + - |
04:20 | <@Vornicus> | eh |
04:21 | <@ToxicFrog> | OTOH, the backend doesn't even support bit widths yet |
04:22 | <@McMartin> | I'm not accustomed to bit res being part of structs in the first place. Do you expect to need it? |
04:23 | <@ToxicFrog> | *I* don't. |
04:23 | <@ToxicFrog> | But it was a feature request in #lua for dealing with stuff like TCP headers. |
04:24 | <@ToxicFrog> | So I figure, not in 1.0, but I may add it later, in which case I don't want to design an API where adding bit res breaks all existing code that uses the library. |
04:26 | <@McMartin> | Ah. |
04:56 | | * Vornicus pokes at VornMoO, tries to remember where he was. |
04:57 | <@Vornicus> | ah, yes. MVC stuff for the star map. |
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11:40 | <@AnnoDomini> | Haha, VICTORY FOR CARL. |
11:40 | | * AnnoDomini gets logging in done in his damned ASP project. |
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13:30 | <@AnnoDomini> | Just to check, would "select MAX(some_field)+1 as maximum from TABLE" parse as correct? I'm none too sure about doing arithmetic in SQL statements. |
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15:44 | <@AnnoDomini> | It was. |
15:44 | | * AnnoDomini rejoices to have done registering... but not error checking for registering. :( |
16:01 | <@AnnoDomini> | Man, I don't feel like doing error checking. But if I don't do it soon, it's probably going to become a feature, rather than a bug. <_< |
16:56 | < Shou|x_X> | >_> |
16:57 | < Shou|x_X> | Soo...that was a live wire x_x |
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17:14 | <@gnolam> | Shoukanjuu: trying to reanimate dead tissue? |
17:15 | < Shoukanjuu> | Idiot grandad left the switch for the fan off |
17:15 | < Shoukanjuu> | Er, on |
17:15 | < Shoukanjuu> | Turned the light switch off |
17:15 | < Shoukanjuu> | So when I go to install a fan |
17:15 | < Shoukanjuu> | Scared the hell out of me, fell off the step ladder XD |
17:16 | < Shoukanjuu> | The only way to turn off the firewall on this 2wire piece of junk is to bypass it, probably...bridging, maybe? |
17:16 | < Shoukanjuu> | I don't have another router for that... |
17:17 | <@gnolam> | So no electric shocks? Aww. |
17:17 | < Shoukanjuu> | Oh, it shocked me, just not enough to do anything but scare me |
17:17 | < Shoukanjuu> | I'm usually careful anyway, so I barely brushed it |
17:17 | < Shoukanjuu> | Fan's in now, though, and it works like a charm |
17:18 | < Shoukanjuu> | Or a fan that works |
17:19 | <@gnolam> | So err... why was there exposed wiring in the first place? |
17:22 | < Shoukanjuu> | Old house v_v |
17:22 | < Shoukanjuu> | I need to fix that too |
17:22 | < Shoukanjuu> | They've lived here for 54 years O_o; |
17:25 | < Shoukanjuu> | I'll probably just wrap it in electrical tape |
17:25 | < Shoukanjuu> | That's what it's for, anyway |
17:28 | < Shoukanjuu> | Why is duct tape good for everything other than ducts? |
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17:41 | <@gnolam> | It is pretty decent for ducts actually. There are specialized tapes for it, but meh. Those are expensive. |
17:42 | < Shoukanjuu> | Oh it's decent, but is it decent to be considered especially for it? v_V |
17:42 | < Shoukanjuu> | I guess it's because it was the best thing for ducts, then thigns got better for ducts, but duct tape's name stuck wi th it |
17:43 | < Shoukanjuu> | Whoo, found a router...and the adapter for it :D |
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