code logs -> 2008 -> Sat, 24 May 2008< code.20080523.log - code.20080525.log >
--- Log opened Sat May 24 00:00:16 2008
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04:12 * ToxicFrog comments struct.compile: -- this is a crime against god and man
04:13 * McMartin goes to set some dinosaurs on fire
04:13
<@McMartin>
Or rather, to acquire some dinosaurs, for the purpose of setting them on fire.
04:13
<@ToxicFrog>
Also, design question, crossposted from #lua.
04:14
<@ToxicFrog>
At present, all widths are in bytes, which seemed reasonable at first since the underlying IO only supports byte resolution and adding bit res is a pain.
04:15
<@ToxicFrog>
However! For the fixed point format, bit widths are actually meaningful, provided the value as a whole is byte aligned.
04:15
<@ToxicFrog>
Furthermore, mandating bytes for everything makes it harder to add bit res support to the library later.
04:15
<@ToxicFrog>
On the other hand, using bit widths means the string formats become...unpleasant.
04:17
<@ToxicFrog>
The obvious solution appears to be to present a means for the user to choose which unit each object is using.
04:17
<@ToxicFrog>
As a first cut at this: lower case is bytes, upper case is bits.
04:17
<@ToxicFrog>
So u4 p3.1 is equivalent to U32 P24.8
04:17
<@ToxicFrog>
Thoughts?
04:18
<@Vornicus>
how about u4 P24.8? is that also equivalent?
04:19
<@ToxicFrog>
Yes.
04:19
<@ToxicFrog>
You can freely mix them.
04:19
<@Vornicus>
ok
04:19 * Vornicus is fine with tht
04:20
<@ToxicFrog>
The one potential problem I can see here is that the seek operators don't have upper case variants: @ + -
04:20
<@Vornicus>
eh
04:21
<@ToxicFrog>
OTOH, the backend doesn't even support bit widths yet
04:22
<@McMartin>
I'm not accustomed to bit res being part of structs in the first place. Do you expect to need it?
04:23
<@ToxicFrog>
*I* don't.
04:23
<@ToxicFrog>
But it was a feature request in #lua for dealing with stuff like TCP headers.
04:24
<@ToxicFrog>
So I figure, not in 1.0, but I may add it later, in which case I don't want to design an API where adding bit res breaks all existing code that uses the library.
04:26
<@McMartin>
Ah.
04:56 * Vornicus pokes at VornMoO, tries to remember where he was.
04:57
<@Vornicus>
ah, yes. MVC stuff for the star map.
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11:40
<@AnnoDomini>
Haha, VICTORY FOR CARL.
11:40 * AnnoDomini gets logging in done in his damned ASP project.
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13:30
<@AnnoDomini>
Just to check, would "select MAX(some_field)+1 as maximum from TABLE" parse as correct? I'm none too sure about doing arithmetic in SQL statements.
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15:44
<@AnnoDomini>
It was.
15:44 * AnnoDomini rejoices to have done registering... but not error checking for registering. :(
16:01
<@AnnoDomini>
Man, I don't feel like doing error checking. But if I don't do it soon, it's probably going to become a feature, rather than a bug. <_<
16:56
< Shou|x_X>
>_>
16:57
< Shou|x_X>
Soo...that was a live wire x_x
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17:14
<@gnolam>
Shoukanjuu: trying to reanimate dead tissue?
17:15
< Shoukanjuu>
Idiot grandad left the switch for the fan off
17:15
< Shoukanjuu>
Er, on
17:15
< Shoukanjuu>
Turned the light switch off
17:15
< Shoukanjuu>
So when I go to install a fan
17:15
< Shoukanjuu>
Scared the hell out of me, fell off the step ladder XD
17:16
< Shoukanjuu>
The only way to turn off the firewall on this 2wire piece of junk is to bypass it, probably...bridging, maybe?
17:16
< Shoukanjuu>
I don't have another router for that...
17:17
<@gnolam>
So no electric shocks? Aww.
17:17
< Shoukanjuu>
Oh, it shocked me, just not enough to do anything but scare me
17:17
< Shoukanjuu>
I'm usually careful anyway, so I barely brushed it
17:17
< Shoukanjuu>
Fan's in now, though, and it works like a charm
17:18
< Shoukanjuu>
Or a fan that works
17:19
<@gnolam>
So err... why was there exposed wiring in the first place?
17:22
< Shoukanjuu>
Old house v_v
17:22
< Shoukanjuu>
I need to fix that too
17:22
< Shoukanjuu>
They've lived here for 54 years O_o;
17:25
< Shoukanjuu>
I'll probably just wrap it in electrical tape
17:25
< Shoukanjuu>
That's what it's for, anyway
17:28
< Shoukanjuu>
Why is duct tape good for everything other than ducts?
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17:41
<@gnolam>
It is pretty decent for ducts actually. There are specialized tapes for it, but meh. Those are expensive.
17:42
< Shoukanjuu>
Oh it's decent, but is it decent to be considered especially for it? v_V
17:42
< Shoukanjuu>
I guess it's because it was the best thing for ducts, then thigns got better for ducts, but duct tape's name stuck wi th it
17:43
< Shoukanjuu>
Whoo, found a router...and the adapter for it :D
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--- Log closed Sun May 25 00:00:23 2008
code logs -> 2008 -> Sat, 24 May 2008< code.20080523.log - code.20080525.log >