| --- Log opened Sun Mar 02 00:00:50 2008 |
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| 01:34 | | * McMartin relicenses the heck out of his application. |
| 01:48 | <@McMartin> | OK, then. |
| 01:49 | <@McMartin> | I think the next release of Blorple is ready for release. |
| 01:50 | <@McMartin> | Time to learn how to use launch4j. |
| 02:05 | <@McMartin> | Well, no |
| 02:06 | <@McMartin> | First, time for uploading the other two versions, then errands and dinner, then I can mess around with launch4j and NSIS. |
| 02:06 | <@McMartin> | If SF.net weren't being ridiculously, comically slow, anyway. |
| 02:08 | | You're now known as TheWatcher |
| 02:09 | <@gnolam> | From what license to what license? |
| 02:16 | <@McMartin> | GPL2 to 3 for most of it. |
| 02:17 | <@McMartin> | The new libraries written for the new release, however, are simplified BSD, and one file in particular that I've added to the project was and thus remains fully public domain. |
| 02:17 | <@McMartin> | And now, dinner. |
| 02:18 | | * McMartin will have more pluggery available once he finishes creating the distribution files. |
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| 02:44 | <@McMartin> | Well, OK |
| 02:44 | <@McMartin> | I suppose there's no sense in hiding the release given that absolutely nobody is monitoring the thing. |
| 02:46 | <@McMartin> | https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=193774&package_id=228298& release_id=580991 - the Nice Windows Version is forthcoming. |
| 02:46 | <@McMartin> | If someone with, say, a PPC Mac Running Tiger wants to try out the dmg to make sure the thing runs, that would be all kinds of awesome. |
| 02:58 | <@McMartin> | http://www.inform-fiction.org/I7/About%20IF%20-%20Anthology.html has a bunch of files you can point it at (well, put them in a directory and point it at). The Plotkin ones generally don't have cover art, though. |
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| 04:03 | | * McMartin points Vorn at http://downloads.sourceforge.net/blorple/blorple-0.2-macosx.dmg?use_mirror=osdn |
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| 04:03 | <@McMartin> | Since I'm not actually sure if Tiger's inherent version of Java is up to snuff, so it would be nice to have independent confirmation. |
| 04:04 | | NSGuest-5343 is now known as Vornicus |
| 04:24 | | * Vornicus downloads accordingly. |
| 04:25 | | * McMartin also learns about SF.net's automatic platform detection. |
| 04:25 | <@McMartin> | That's pretty sweet. |
| 04:25 | < Vornicus> | okay, looks like it works. |
| 04:25 | <@McMartin> | Awesome, thanks. |
| 04:40 | <@McMartin> | Blorple 0.2 is thus now officially released! http://blorple.sourceforge.net/ |
| 04:42 | < Vornicus> | Wootcake |
| 04:47 | <@McMartin> | Also, for the record, launch4j is a wonderful application. |
| 04:48 | <@McMartin> | Adds 21kb to your .jar file, but turns it into an .exe that is guaranteed to be click-and-run, and more importantly, it can also carry icons and such that the OS will know about. |
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| 13:22 | <@AnnoDomini> | Anyone here work with BIOS interrupts? I'm trying to redefine a character, and find the documentation entry for the 10,11 interrupt confusing. |
| 13:37 | <@AnnoDomini> | Nevermind! Making a gamble, putting zeros where I wasn't sure what to put seems to have worked. |
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| 14:07 | <@AnnoDomini> | Hm... Where could I find 16 byte representations of the base DOS characters? |
| 14:08 | <@gnolam> | 16 byte representations? |
| 14:09 | <@AnnoDomini> | A definition of what they look like, each 8 pixel line being represented by a byte. |
| 14:11 | <@AnnoDomini> | A tip-downwards triangle looks like "00,00,00,254,254,254,254,7CH,7CH,7CH,7CH,38H,38H,38H,38H,10H". |
| 14:19 | <@gnolam> | http://www.ctyme.com/cgi-swish/intr.cgi?query=font&submit=Search%21&metaname=swi shdefault&sort=swishrank&dr_o=12&dr_s_mon=3&dr_s_day=2&dr_s_year=2008&dr_e_mon=3 &dr_e_day=2&dr_e_year=2008 |
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| 14:33 | <@AnnoDomini> | gnolam: How is this supposed to help me? |
| 14:38 | | * AnnoDomini is specifically looking for a way to restore default fonts. |
| 14:39 | <@AnnoDomini> | But the damned documentation very clear isn't. |
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| 19:04 | < Mango> | Hello. Can someone explain to me why running a nested query takes so much longer than running two queries individually, one after the other? |
| 19:04 | < Mango> | SELECT * FROM `table` - .0010 sec |
| 19:04 | < Mango> | SELECT DISTINCT `id` FROM `table2` - .0006 sec |
| 19:04 | < Mango> | SELECT * FROM `table` WHERE `id` IN (SELECT DISTINCT `id` FROM `table2`) - 1 min 46 sec. |
| 19:04 | < Mango> | `id` is the primary key on both tables |
| 19:05 | <@jerith> | Because it runs the inner query for every row in the outer. |
| 19:06 | < Mango> | that was my guess. but...but...but...why?!? |
| 19:06 | <@jerith> | You probably want something like "SELECT table.* FROM table JOIN table2 ON table.id = table2.id" |
| 19:06 | | * Mango tries it |
| 19:08 | < Mango> | ...by golly |
| 19:08 | < Mango> | less than a second |
| 19:08 | < Mango> | Thanks Jerith :) |
| 19:09 | | * Mango checks out section 12.2.8.11, "Rewriting Subqueries as Joins" |
| 19:58 | <@jerith> | You can make it faster by indexing id on both tables. :-) |
| 19:58 | < Mango> | already done ;) |
| 20:00 | < Mango> | Here's a follow-up question. |
| 20:01 | < Mango> | Can a time limit be set on MySQL queries? i.e. anything more than, say, 10 sec gets killed? |
| 20:13 | < Mango> | that's curious. |
| 20:13 | < Mango> | I did set_time_limit(10); in the php script, and it went on for over a minute. |
| 20:15 | < Vornotron> | Did you do that before or after the query? |
| 20:15 | < Mango> | before. |
| 20:15 | < Mango> | it never actually timed out; I got bored and killed it :P |
| 20:16 | < Vornotron> | Suck. |
| 20:22 | <@jerith> | PHP ftl. |
| 20:38 | | * Mango ponders. |
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| 21:08 | <@AnnoDomini> | Damn. Assembly-generated programs are SMALL. |
| 21:08 | < Mango> | lol, really? |
| 21:09 | <@AnnoDomini> | 400 B of code translated here into 800 B of exe. |
| 21:09 | < Mango> | wow. |
| 21:18 | <@Attilla> | :O |
| 21:32 | <@gnolam> | That reminds me to go buy an Atmel programmer. |
| 21:57 | <@gnolam> | (By which I mean I'll buy the physical thingamabob you program the chips with, not that I'm going to cruise the Bangalore code slave market) |
| 23:41 | <@McMartin> | Each line of assembler is one machine instruction. |
| 23:42 | <@McMartin> | On a RISC architecture, typically, Every Instruction is 4 Bytes Long. |
| 23:42 | <@McMartin> | And it generally varies from 1 to 8, tops. |
| 23:43 | < Finerty> | ARM is a risc system with four byte instructions and a two-byte "thumb" high-speed instruction set. |
| 23:44 | <@ToxicFrog> | Honestly I'm surprised the exe turned out as large as it did. |
| 23:45 | <@ToxicFrog> | For asm, I'd expect it to be smaller than the source. |
| 23:47 | <@AnnoDomini> | ToxicFrog: Disassembly reveals that there are many comments in the file. |
| 23:47 | <@AnnoDomini> | Or it's just the disassembler. I dunno. |
| 23:50 | <@ToxicFrog> | ... |
| 23:50 | <@ToxicFrog> | That would be the disassembler; .text doesn't contain comments. |
| 23:50 | <@ToxicFrog> | Is this an actual EXE, or an object file or a .COM? |
| 23:51 | <@AnnoDomini> | EXE. |
| 23:51 | <@ToxicFrog> | Aah. |
| 23:51 | <@AnnoDomini> | The OBJ file is 300 B. |
| 23:51 | <@ToxicFrog> | That's more reasonable. |
| 23:51 | <@ToxicFrog> | EXEs contain lots of additional data. |
| 23:52 | <@AnnoDomini> | Hello world done as a COM goes from 146 B of code to 22 B of COM file. |
| 23:54 | <@ToxicFrog> | More than half of that being the string itself. |
| 23:54 | <@ToxicFrog> | I suspect it's at most three or four instructions, since it can do an interrupt for the actual display |
| 23:55 | <@AnnoDomini> | Four, including the RET. |
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