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| 01:16 | <@McMartin> | There are several classes of marker in UTF-8, idly. The Cx or Dx are both two-byte markers. |
| 01:17 | <@McMartin> | Well. %110. It's not convenient to specify five bits in hex as variable. |
| 01:21 | <@McMartin> | Ugh. This refactoring is going to be bloody. |
| 01:21 | <@McMartin> | src/sc2code/commglue.c:354: error: pointers are not permitted as case values |
| 01:24 | <@Vornicus> | eeew. |
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| 01:28 | | * McMartin learns how to mix xargs with TextWrangler |
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| 20:46 | <@gnolam> | NYARGHL |
| 20:46 | < UndeadAnno> | Yes. |
| 20:46 | <@ToxicFrog> | ? |
| 20:46 | <@gnolam> | Mental note: take OpenOffice's programmers out behind the chemical sheds and shoot them. |
| 20:50 | <@ToxicFrog> | ?? |
| 20:51 | <@McMartin> | Really, that doesn't need much explanation. |
| 20:53 | <@Vornicus> | I think TF is asking "What is it this time?" |
| 20:54 | <@ToxicFrog> | Quite. |
| 20:56 | <@gnolam> | I have to have images in this document. :P |
| 20:56 | <@gnolam> | And working with images in OpenOffice is like slowly pounding nails into your testicles. |
| 21:01 | < C_tiger> | I guess all the OO devs must be female |
| 21:01 | <@McMartin> | They apparently thought mixing Java and C++ was a good idea. |
| 21:02 | <@gnolam> | And it doesn't help that I'm doing this for an assignment I have no chance in hell of actually completing. |
| 21:02 | <@McMartin> | (In other news, Swing appears to have exactly what I need, and which I could not convince GTK to give me. Very Twilight Zone) |
| 21:02 | | * McMartin hasn't tried actually making it work yet though |
| 21:03 | < C_tiger> | gnolam, why not just write the text in ... your favorite editor... then arrange it all with something like LaTex |
| 21:03 | <@McMartin> | C: ... I've never, ever, seen "import to LaTeX" actually work. |
| 21:03 | < C_tiger> | I meant from scratch. |
| 21:04 | < C_tiger> | I mean writing LaTex from scratch is a huge pain but it's not testicular crucifixion pain. |
| 21:04 | <@gnolam> | Then it's dependency hell instead. Not much better. |
| 21:06 | < Xiphias> | The only thing I've found wrong with swing so far is the layout managers. |
| 21:07 | <@McMartin> | Xiph: I want something rather odd in this case, and it *looks* like it's got exactly what I need *for layout*. |
| 21:07 | <@McMartin> | Hence the Twilightzoneness. |
| 21:07 | <@McMartin> | (To wit, a pair of nested JSplitPanes, each with one widget therein) |
| 21:07 | <@Vornicus> | I couldn't get the layout managers to work at all. |
| 21:07 | <@ToxicFrog> | What's a JSplitPane? |
| 21:07 | | * McMartin never uses anything other than Grids. |
| 21:08 | <@Vornicus> | I couldn't get grids to work. |
| 21:08 | <@McMartin> | TF: Two widgets next to each other with a bar for giving one or the other more space. |
| 21:08 | <@ToxicFrog> | (and, I have to say I've never had problems with images in OO, but I don't use them much) |
| 21:08 | <@McMartin> | I have three, and want one to dominate the other two. |
| 21:08 | <@ToxicFrog> | ...I know GTK has that, because I've used apps that use that. |
| 21:08 | <@McMartin> | This is for Java!Blorple. |
| 21:08 | <@McMartin> | Yes. |
| 21:08 | <@McMartin> | And I tried to make it work in Blorple and it kept breaking everything horribly. |
| 21:09 | <@McMartin> | Or simply refusing to allow the resize. |
| 21:09 | | * McMartin also couldn't get PyGTK to make an Image Label out of a non-file. |
| 21:09 | <@McMartin> | Which is annoying when the image is actually the *fragment* of a file. |
| 21:09 | <@McMartin> | Er. Out of a non-filename. |
| 21:09 | <@McMartin> | Which I must assume is a limitation of PyGTK, because wtf. |
| 21:10 | <@McMartin> | Or a lack of documentation. |
| 21:10 | | * McMartin wants a vertical split pane whose bottom pane is itself a horizontal split pane. |
| 21:11 | <@McMartin> | Like http://blorple.sourceforge.net/blorple.png, but user-resizable. Which was a trick I could not manage for some reason with PyGTK. |
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