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| 19:32 | <@AnnoDomini> | Could anyone enlighten me what "algebraic product" and "algebraic sum" would mean in context of handling fuzzy logic? |
| 19:33 | < Vornicus> | fuzzy logic is the one where you have truth values from 0 to 1? |
| 19:33 | <@AnnoDomini> | Yes. |
| 19:34 | <@AnnoDomini> | My task here is to get the same thing as with MIN(A,B), where A and B are fuzzy values, with the use of these "algebraic operators". |
| 19:34 | <@AnnoDomini> | I'm doing this in SciLab, BTW. |
| 19:37 | < Vornicus> | a*b, and a + b - a*b |
| 19:37 | <@AnnoDomini> | Hm. I'll try that. |
| 19:39 | <@AnnoDomini> | It doesn't seem to give me the same stuff. |
| 19:39 | < Vornicus> | Give me some example results of algebraic product and sum |
| 19:42 | <@AnnoDomini> | http://i15.tinypic.com/6u5j9yd.png <- This is what I should be getting. |
| 19:43 | <@AnnoDomini> | http://i8.tinypic.com/8eqfqec.png <- What I'm getting with your suggestions. |
| 19:43 | < Vornicus> | No, see |
| 19:44 | < Vornicus> | the algebraic operators are going to be your building blocks. |
| 19:48 | <@AnnoDomini> | Ah. |
| 19:48 | | * AnnoDomini tries to figure it out. |
| 19:51 | < Vornicus> | I think anyway |
| 19:53 | | * AnnoDomini wonders why Firefox handles image viewing so suckily compared to Opera. |
| 19:54 | < Vornicus> | Your text or notes should describe the fuzzy algebraic operators, if it expects you to use them. |
| 19:55 | <@AnnoDomini> | They are, sort of, but so far I've been unable to make sense of the explanation. |
| 19:56 | < Vornicus> | Then place the explanation here, and we shall puzzle it out together. |
| 19:57 | <@AnnoDomini> | You can read Polish? |
| 19:57 | <@AnnoDomini> | Hm. Well, I can make a printscreen of the expressions, anyway. |
| 19:57 | < Vornicus> | Sadly no. |
| 19:58 | < Vornicus> | my grandfather can, but something tells me this would be beyond him. |
| 19:58 | <@AnnoDomini> | http://i19.tinypic.com/8e0dsgp.png |
| 19:59 | < Vornicus> | Okay. the algebraic operators are, in fact, exactly what I described. |
| 20:00 | <@AnnoDomini> | So this would mean that I'm supposed to get different things. :/ |
| 20:00 | < Vornicus> | Yeah |
| 20:00 | < Vornicus> | well, uh |
| 20:00 | < Vornicus> | the thing is, you're supposed to construct the min and max things, /from/ the algebraic ones. |
| 20:02 | <@AnnoDomini> | Mhm. Oh, well. I don't think I'll encounter this sort of detail on the exam. |
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| 20:44 | <@TheWatcher> | hmm |
| 20:44 | <@TheWatcher> | c++ peoples, a style query/ |
| 20:46 | <@TheWatcher> | Assume that a class has a constructor that does some initialisation, but neither it or any of the functions dynamically allocation any memory. The destructor has, therefore, nothing to do - do you think it is worth putting in an empty destructor with a '// Do nothing' comment in it, or just leave it out entirely? |
| 20:49 | <@TheWatcher> | I'm vaguely leaning towards the latter for completeness and readability, but... *shrug* |
| 20:50 | <@TheWatcher> | Ugh, I mean, the former - including an empty destructor (yay for my brain not working today) |
| 20:50 | <@AnnoDomini> | That'd be my thought, too. With an explanation why you're putting it there. |
| 20:51 | <@AnnoDomini> | At least whoever will be maintaining your code won't wonder why the hell you've done something like this. |
| 20:51 | <@TheWatcher> | mmhmm |
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| 21:28 | <@Kazriko> | "Most developers who work with MSSCCI eventually turn to recreational pharmaceuticals in a futile effort to cope." |
| 21:28 | <@Kazriko> | hehe. |
| 21:29 | <@AnnoDomini> | !google MSSCCI |
| 21:29 | <+DiceBot> | [AnnoDomini] http://www.google.pl/search?q=MSSCCI |
| 21:30 | <@Kazriko> | http://www.ericsink.com/scm/scm_ide_integration.html |
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| 23:39 | <@AnnoDomini> | Hm. |
| 23:40 | <@AnnoDomini> | I have broken SciLab. |
| 23:40 | <@AnnoDomini> | It seems that input values may not be 0. :P |
| 23:42 | < Finerty> | uh |
| 23:42 | < Finerty> | huh. |
| 23:43 | <@AnnoDomini> | I had to use Task Manager to shut it down, too, as it failed to parse anything after that script went haywire. |
| 23:53 | <@AnnoDomini> | Ah, I see. There seems to be a problem with the final value... it should be 1 for one term, and it's showing up as 0 across the board. |
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