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| 01:07 | | * Derakon discovers that his save-map routine is writing duplicate tiles sometimes. Very odd. |
| 01:12 | <@Derakon> | Ah hah. When I delete an object, a reference to it remains in the map table. |
| 01:31 | <@Derakon> | Hmm...when gprof tells me that the most expensive thing in my game is calling SDL_FillRect at 47.6% of runtime, and the next most expensive is only at 4.3%, I suspect I'm going to have trouble optimizing. |
| 01:32 | <@Derakon> | (Oh, and the third-most-expensive thing, at 1.9%, is BlitRGBtoRGBPixelAlphaMMX). |
| 01:33 | <@IanMusgrave> | What are you using SDL_FIllRect for? I know OpenGL at least has a specific clear function that's designed to be cheaper than drawing a rectangle. |
| 01:33 | <@Derakon> | Um, blanking the screen, I believe. I wrote that bit ages ago. |
| 01:34 | <@Derakon> | It's also remotely possible that drawing normal sprites involves calling FillRect, though I wouldn't know why. |
| 01:35 | <@IanMusgrave> | I don't think so - if they have transparency it shouldn't. |
| 01:35 | <@IanMusgrave> | Depending on various things you might not even need to blank the screen; Marathon, for instance, didn't. |
| 01:36 | <@Derakon> | If I'm redrawing every pixel every frame, then no, I wouldn't need to blank it. |
| 01:36 | <@IanMusgrave> | it's not a hard thing to have happen. |
| 01:37 | <@Derakon> | Yeah...eventually I'll write some configuration stuff so that game creators can decide what features of the engine to use without recompiling it; that's a natural one to include. |
| 01:38 | <@IanMusgrave> | I mean, you've got backgrounds... |
| 01:38 | <@Derakon> | Right. |
| 01:38 | <@Derakon> | Frankly, for the final game, if there are pixels that I'm *not* redrawing every frame, then I probably have a bug. |
| 01:39 | <@IanMusgrave> | unless it's in the status zone (and it's opaque like Super Metroid as opposed to overlaid like MZM) |
| 01:39 | <@IanMusgrave> | But then you're throwing around cliprects anyway. |
| 01:39 | <@Derakon> | Hmmm...what will need to be shown in status? Energy and currently selected drone mode, and I guess a minimap. That's it. |
| 01:40 | <@IanMusgrave> | And any limited tools - PBombs/Missiles/SMissiles, for MZM. |
| 01:40 | <@Derakon> | Oh, battery life. |
| 01:40 | <@Derakon> | I don't think I'll have any ammo-using abilities; at least, at this point I don't have any planned. |
| 01:41 | <@Derakon> | The way I see it, most ammo-using weapons are "you can deal lots of damage now, at the cost of having to stop to reload later". And reloading is usually boring. So why not just do away with the amo and lower the rate at which normally ammo-using abilities deal damage? |
| 01:41 | <@Derakon> | s/amo/ammo |
| 01:47 | <@ToxicFrog> | Well, ideally, reloading is something that happens on the side, as it were. |
| 01:47 | <@ToxicFrog> | Take metroid. You burn all your missiles on something, you'll be out of missiles for a while - but they'll gradually refill as you pick up drops. |
| 01:48 | <@Derakon> | Mmm, fair. |
| 01:48 | <@ToxicFrog> | Yeah, you can farm them, but in that case it's not so much that the game is boring as that you're making the game boring~ |
| 01:48 | <@ToxicFrog> | And it's nice to have something you can use as a panic-button attack. |
| 01:49 | <@Derakon> | Hmm...thought, then - backup battery packs, which dump energy into your reserves at the press of a button. |
| 01:49 | <@Derakon> | Since the more powerful attacks (and jumping, etc.) are planned to use energy. |
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| 02:27 | < Takyoji> | What causes someone to be disconnected, yet for the server to think the user is yet connected when you log back in? |
| 02:27 | < Takyoji> | (out of curiousity) |
| 02:28 | <@Derakon> | The server keeps track of whether or not you're connected by pinging you on a regular basis. |
| 02:28 | <@Derakon> | Once you fail to respond to a set number of pings, it disconnects you. |
| 02:28 | < Takyoji> | No, I mean.. |
| 02:28 | <@IanMusgrave> | TCP only knows you've disappeared if it gets an error. |
| 02:28 | <@IanMusgrave> | Since IRC doesn't send a whole lot of data, and packets just disappear into the void once in a while anyway, this can take a while. |
| 02:29 | < Takyoji> | Ahh |
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| 02:40 | < Takyoji> | What permission code should I set for my configuration files and such? |
| 02:40 | < Takyoji> | Because I'm trying to open MySQL but it isn't starting because it says the config files are 'world writable' |
| 02:40 | <@Derakon[blended]> | Turn off write-by-anybody, then. |
| 02:41 | < Takyoji> | k |
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| 03:48 | < Bob_work> | Anyone mind offering me advice? |
| 03:48 | < Reiver> | ? |
| 03:49 | < Bob_work> | Ok, I work in a Datacenter, and have to go in and out of servers a lot. |
| 03:50 | < Bob_work> | I would like to setup an app, like a webpage, where I can go in and out of them with a couple of mouse clicks instead of typing |
| 03:50 | < Bob_work> | 1) Because I'm lazy, and 2) just because I'd like to code something like that. |
| 03:50 | < Bob_work> | My question is: Which language would be best to code that in? |
| 03:51 | <@IanMusgrave> | "go in and out of them"? |
| 03:52 | < Bob_work> | We use SecureCRT 4.0 or Telnet into the Unix servers, and Remote Desktop connection for the windows servers. |
| 03:52 | < Reiver> | ... Telnet |
| 03:52 | | * Reiver coughs. |
| 03:52 | < Bob_work> | yeah yeah, I know. |
| 03:53 | < Reiver> | So what you want is effectively a 'webpage' that automates the login process, but runs the software proper? |
| 03:53 | < Reiver> | Basically, a glorified shortcut? |
| 03:53 | < Reiver> | (It's the best way I can think to describe it.) |
| 03:53 | < Bob_work> | Pretty much. |
| 03:54 | | * Reiver hmns. |
| 03:54 | < Reiver> | Have you checked to see if *actual* shortcuts can't do half of it with -tags? >.> |
| 03:54 | <@IanMusgrave> | Actual shortcuts would likely be easier. |
| 03:55 | < Bob_work> | I suppose, but I also wanted a centralized point to make it easier. |
| 03:55 | < Takyoji> | What type of datacenter? |
| 03:55 | < Bob_work> | As well as just learn something |
| 03:55 | < Bob_work> | Retail company. |
| 03:56 | <@IanMusgrave> | A difficult thing - remember that you'd have to give your browser the ability to /run programs/ on each machine you admin from. |
| 03:56 | <@IanMusgrave> | This is Bad Juju. |
| 03:56 | < Bob_work> | True. |
| 03:56 | < Takyoji> | PHP or ASP.NET I'm thinking |
| 03:57 | < Takyoji> | Otherwise I haven't really used RoR |
| 03:57 | < Takyoji> | Since I don't know Ruby on Rails |
| 03:57 | < Bob_work> | We had someone on the helpdesk actually create one for their use (going down into the store servers), but it used HTML, Java, NT scripting, as well as ActiveX (which "hacked" IE to allow it to execute programs from the browser window) |
| 03:57 | < Takyoji> | PHP is nice since it's cross-compatible and all |
| 03:58 | < Reiver> | Bob: Yeah, that's about the level of bab juju you'd need to do. |
| 03:58 | < Bob_work> | Reiver: So...that idea is right out. Gotcha. |
| 03:58 | < Reiver> | You could probably write a workable program using Actual Java |
| 03:59 | <@IanMusgrave> | At that, though, you can use Shortcuts put on a share that say "Run Remote Desktop with these options" or "Run PuTTY with these options" |
| 03:59 | < Reiver> | Just also recall that you will of course, be typing the passwords by hand each time you log in... |
| 04:00 | <@IanMusgrave> | Well, PuTTY/ssh at least allows you to use asymmetric key login. |
| 04:00 | < Bob_work> | asymmetric key login? |
| 04:01 | < Bob_work> | So, basically PHP or Java? |
| 04:01 | <@IanMusgrave> | you put a public key in a file in your home folder on the system you want to log into without a pass |
| 04:02 | < Bob_work> | Ah. |
| 04:02 | <@IanMusgrave> | and then put a private key in a file in your home folder on the system you want to log in from |
| 04:02 | <@IanMusgrave> | and you have it. |
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| 04:04 | < Bob_work> | Thanks all. |
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| 04:04 | <@IanMusgrave> | Seriously, though - neither PHP nor Java. Use shell scripts on *nix or shortcuts on Windows. |
| 04:04 | <@IanMusgrave> | ...dammit |
| 04:06 | < Takyoji> | I know.. it is pretty stupid to have something operated by a server-side language |
| 04:06 | < Takyoji> | Although, I couldn't really understand what he needed.. |
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| 04:07 | < Doctor_Nick> | :D |
| 04:07 | < Doctor_Nick> | :E |
| 04:07 | < Doctor_Nick> | whoops |
| 04:07 | < Takyoji> | Hmm? |
| 04:07 | < Doctor_Nick> | pretend those are drive letters |
| 04:08 | < Doctor_Nick> | but i have dyslexia and reversed the colon and the letter |
| 04:08 | < Takyoji> | heheheh.. |
| 04:08 | < Takyoji> | Wrong room I take it? |
| 04:08 | < Takyoji> | Happens.. |
| 04:10 | < Takyoji> | Otherwise, |
| 04:10 | < Takyoji> | I'm trying to figure out how to make a module system in PHP |
| 04:11 | < Takyoji> | I mean, for a script in PHP but don't really have much ideas.. |
| 04:11 | < Takyoji> | I know my needs are a little general, but does anyone have an idea? |
| 04:12 | < Takyoji> | Module system meaning a plug-in system |
| 04:13 | < Takyoji> | Kinda like what they are trying to get at with phpBB 3 |
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| 04:59 | < BlueTiger> | I don't suppose anyone here uses php much? |
| 05:00 | < Takyoji> | I'm probably the only one ;P |
| 05:01 | < Takyoji> | Everyone else uses Ruby on Rails and ASP.NET |
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| 17:49 | <@ToxicFrog> | ...p4merge has some issues. |
| 17:49 | <@ToxicFrog> | Common base: logging/event_log.cpp |
| 17:49 | <@ToxicFrog> | Your file: 0 differences from base |
| 17:49 | <@ToxicFrog> | Their file: 0 differences from base |
| 17:49 | <@ToxicFrog> | Conflicts: 1 |
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| 20:13 | <@ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | Guess what's wrong with this code! |
| 20:13 | <@ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | EXPORT32 void __stdcall |
| 20:13 | <@ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | SHIM_Wait_for_tcpip_init(void) |
| 20:13 | <@ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | { |
| 20:13 | <@ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | return Wait_for_tcpip_init(); |
| 20:13 | <@ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | } |
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| 20:16 | <@Vornicus> | um |
| 20:16 | <@Vornicus> | why is it returing? |
| 20:20 | <@ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | Bingo. |
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| 20:32 | | * Vornicus fiddles with PostScript. |
| 20:39 | <@Vornicus> | ...ew, I just figured out what I need to do... |
| 20:40 | | * Vornicus is trying to get two lines of different colors to merge and show a different color. |
| 20:47 | <@Vornicus> | and that, as far as I can tell, entails using the borders of the line and fill as opposed to the line itself and using a clip or something to get the combined section. |
| 20:52 | <@ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | ...I thought PS had alpha? |
| 20:52 | <@Vornicus> | nope. |
| 20:52 | <@Vornicus> | and anyway there's a background on it, too. |
| 20:53 | <@Vornicus> | So even with alpha I'd get the (very dark) background showing through. |
| 20:53 | <@ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | Aah. |
| 20:57 | <@Vornicus> | on the other hand, PostScript is still relaxing to work with. |
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| 21:16 | <@Vornicus> | I'm trying also to figure out how to do things with images - I have a bunch of raster images that I need to put on this page, and some have (indexed) transparency. |
| 21:18 | <@ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | I believe this is possible, but I've never tried it. |
| 21:18 | <@Vornicus> | Looking through the reference I have found a thing that, if I can manage to get the image into a dictionary of the right format, would render the image straight. |
| 21:20 | <@Vornicus> | (section 4.10, starting on page 288 of the most recent reference from Adobe. Table 4.22 describes an image dictionary with masking.) |
| 21:21 | <@Vornicus> | The trick, of course, is turning the image into a dictionary. |
| 21:38 | | * ToxicFrog|W`rkn throttles msdev |
| 22:09 | <@Vornicus> | PDF I know has alpha. I wonder if I can do a layer where alpha works only on that one layer and then underly that with my actual backing. |
| 22:10 | <@Vornicus> | And I know it can embed images. |
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