code logs -> 2006 -> Tue, 26 Dec 2006< code.20061225.log - code.20061227.log >
--- Log opened Tue Dec 26 00:00:25 2006
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04:59
< Takyoji>
I installed another HD. But apparently it isn't appearing in "My Computer", the computer has the driver installed, but I can't access it.
04:59
< Takyoji>
BUT, I didn't put a jumper pin on it
04:59
< Takyoji>
My other harddrive is ironically set as a slave,
05:00
< Takyoji>
so... do I set it as a master? (A to B)
05:21
< Takyoji>
Is anyone actually alive?
05:22
< Takyoji>
Otherwise, can a Windows partion work with a Linux partion?
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05:36
< Ev3>
CS
05:36
< Ev3>
ANd what OS are we talking?
05:41
< Stephenie>
Of course Windows can work with a linux partition o_O however not highley recommended *gags* and install windows first so it does fubarb linux boot loader :)
05:41 * Stephenie slinks and hides and goes to fix her colors
05:43
< Stephenie>
doesnt*
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05:51
< Takyoji>
And I tried partitioning it, but it still doesn't work
05:51
< Takyoji>
Is anyone actually listening?...
05:53
< Stephenie>
yes
05:53
< Stephenie>
I responded but you had left
05:53
< Stephenie>
.... as for the jumpers
05:54
< Stephenie>
you need to set HDD a to master HDD B to slave
05:54
< Stephenie>
or ... if you don't feel like doing htat set them both to cable select and it will do it for you automatically
05:54
< Takyoji>
hmm
05:54
< Stephenie>
Also.. referring to linux and windows being on the same partition
05:54
< Stephenie>
of course you can do that :/ but I wouldn't
05:55
< Stephenie>
also.. if you are having a hard time partitioning in windows use something like partition magic or.... a win98 disk and boot to DOS and use FDISK
05:55
< Takyoji>
So have the jumper pin not on at all (Slave) or the jumper pin on C & D (Setting as Slave "(CD)")?
05:55
< Stephenie>
you have to have the jumper pins on
05:55
< Stephenie>
or it won't know what to do
05:56
< Stephenie>
when it is in reference to that
05:56
< Takyoji>
I mean, is it possible to have HD B have a Linux partition?
05:56
< Stephenie>
Yes of course
05:56
< Takyoji>
oh okay
05:56
< Takyoji>
I'll be back in a second then
05:56
< Stephenie>
make sure you install linux last though so you wont fubarb the boot loader
05:56
< Takyoji>
Yea, I did
05:56
< Takyoji>
I did that before I restarted
05:56
< Takyoji>
brb
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06:02
< Ev3>
Most HDDs default to CS with no jumper.
06:02
< Stephenie>
mmmm I did not know this
06:02
< Stephenie>
Thank you :)
06:02
< Ev3>
:p
06:02
< Ev3>
Idiocy protection ^_^
06:02
< Ev3>
For people like me.
06:02 * Stephenie chuckles
06:02
< Ev3>
Or if you lose your jumper.
06:02
< Stephenie>
awwww your not an idiot
06:02 * Stephenie hates losing jumpers
06:03 * Stephenie has a bag of them
06:03 * Ev3 prefers not to lose jumpers in the first place.
06:04
< Stephenie>
they are sooooo tiny.. it happens
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06:05
< Stephenie>
erm... and especially when my nails are long *dies*
06:05
< Takyoji>
Switching it around didn't work, I didn't change the pin of HD A
06:05
< Stephenie>
.... What exactly is the problem?
06:05
< Takyoji>
I tried Cable Select, since I got an error with GRUB
06:05
< Stephenie>
I feel like I'm shooting in the dark trying to help you
06:06
< Stephenie>
What was the error?
06:06
< Takyoji>
Error 15 I think
06:06
< Takyoji>
I didn't say anything else
06:06
< Takyoji>
then halted
06:06
< Stephenie>
tell me how you have your system set upt
06:06
< Stephenie>
up*
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06:06
< Takyoji>
I'll actually Try changing HD A to Master, and HD B to Slave
06:06
< Stephenie>
lol
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06:07
< Stephenie>
If you tell me the problem I can tell you the answer
06:07
< Takyoji>
HD A: Slave, HD B: Cable Select
06:07 * Stephenie blnks
06:07
< Stephenie>
blinks*
06:07
< Takyoji>
The harddrive isn't appearing in 'My Computer'
06:07
< Ev3>
That won't do you much good if the OS is on HD a
06:07
< Ev3>
Yes, have you tried the logical disk manager?
06:07
< Ev3>
And what OS are we talking?
06:08
< Stephenie>
Win XP i'm assuming
06:08
< Takyoji>
And as I said, ironically, HD A, was set to Slave when we got it. HD A: Win XP Home, HD B: Ubuntu
06:08
< Ev3>
WinXP home is different from WinXP pro in this aspect.
06:08
< Stephenie>
ye sit is
06:08
< Stephenie>
yes*
06:08
< Takyoji>
ahh
06:08
< Stephenie>
wait.... how was it set to slave?
06:09
< Ev3>
And you're trying to do what, now?
06:09
< Takyoji>
By one jumper pin between C and D
06:09
< Ev3>
Your boot partition would be on HD a, that should be master, and B should be slave.
06:09
< Ev3>
Ignore capitalization, it's 7 AM.
06:09
< Takyoji>
Make damned HD B to appear in 'My Computer'
06:09
< Ev3>
You can boot at all with HD a set to slave?
06:10
< Stephenie>
Thats why i'm like huh
06:10
< Takyoji>
And HD A can work as a Slave yet being the boot partition or what?
06:10
< Ev3>
Because if you can you have some funky voodoo I don't understand.
06:10
< Takyoji>
Apparently yes
06:10
< Stephenie>
Thank you
06:10
< Stephenie>
.... wait
06:10
< Takyoji>
heheh exactly
06:10
< Stephenie>
lets look at the cable itself
06:10
< Takyoji>
oh
06:10
< Ev3>
Motherboard type?
06:10
< Takyoji>
Motherboard > HD B > HD A
06:10
< Takyoji>
oh umm..
06:10
< Takyoji>
as far as?
06:11
< Takyoji>
This isn't a custom
06:11 * Stephenie would personally start that all over and reconfigure
06:11
< Takyoji>
It's a premade
06:11 * Ev3 would personally call someone else to do it for her.
06:11
< Stephenie>
OMG no its sooooo fun1
06:11
< Stephenie>
!
06:12
< Ev3>
Yes, sitting there in the dust for a couple of hours trying to figure out who made which mistake and how to circumvent that blootie so you can configure your friggin PC right.
06:12
< Takyoji>
soo..
06:12
< Ev3>
Done that once too many.
06:12
< Ev3>
So: HD A: Master, HD B: Slave.
06:12
< Takyoji>
That's what I thought
06:12
< Ev3>
Also, reverse cable setup as some motherboards are anal.
06:12
< Stephenie>
Thats what I said
06:12
< Stephenie>
:P
06:12
< Ev3>
MB > HDa > HDb
06:12
< Takyoji>
ahh
06:13
< Stephenie>
Yes... make sure your cables are right
06:13
< Stephenie>
you do know which connecter is master and slave right?
06:13
< Takyoji>
ugh, alright, I guess I'll be back
06:13
< Ev3>
Make note of how it is now.
06:13
< Ev3>
It may not work at all reversed.
06:13
< Takyoji>
yes
06:13
< Stephenie>
Probably not because of the MBR
06:13
< Stephenie>
:)
06:13
< Stephenie>
thats why I am saying start over
06:13
< Takyoji>
Be back in a bit
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06:13 * Stephenie shakes her head
06:13
< Ev3>
Oh, LDM >_<
06:14
< Stephenie>
LDM?
06:14
< Ev3>
It may be that the HDb is formatted in a format Win can't recognize, or something otherwise odd.
06:14
< Ev3>
Or that it's a logical.
06:14
< Stephenie>
....
06:14
< Stephenie>
it would see a logical
06:14
< Ev3>
If it's logical it simply won't appear.
06:14
< BlueTiger>
d'oh
06:14
< Ev3>
Because it's home.
06:14
< Stephenie>
GRAH!
06:14
< Stephenie>
I hate home
06:14
< BlueTiger>
if he has Ubuntu on HDb then windows won't see it, because it's ext2
06:14
< Ev3>
I hate home.
06:14
< Ev3>
Heh.
06:14
< BlueTiger>
I hate home too.
06:15
< BlueTiger>
or ext3
06:15
< Ev3>
Hehe.
06:15
< Ev3>
The LDM will see it connected.
06:15
< Ev3>
The LDM will tell him "WTF? mate."
06:15
< Stephenie>
Logical disk manager?
06:15
< Ev3>
Yes.
06:15 * Stephenie chuckles
06:15
< Ev3>
control -> administration -> LDM.
06:15 * Stephenie facepalms
06:15
< Stephenie>
Oh i know :)
06:16
< Ev3>
I don't like Linux, because I have better stability and resource handling using WinXP pro.
06:16
< Ev3>
That, and proper win32 handling.
06:17
< Stephenie>
I don't like using Linux for other reasons :P
06:17
< Stephenie>
mainly has to do with my programs RAH!
06:17 * Stephenie likes to be able to make pretty pictures
06:18
< Ev3>
7wks 3days 9hrs 43mins uptime.
06:18
< BlueTiger>
I don't like using Linux because it won't run my video games. I'd be perfectly happy otherwise. (Since I could always use Mono for my beloved C#...)
06:18
< BlueTiger>
:P
06:18
< Ev3>
Record so far is 62 weeks on this bøx.
06:18
< Stephenie>
wow... i'm impressed
06:18
< Stephenie>
Can't tell you how long its been since I restarted though
06:18 * Stephenie uses Win XP pro as well
06:18
< Ev3>
$uptime(system,2) and press tab while the cursor is inside the identifier.
06:19
< BlueTiger>
I have home because I'm poort. :(
06:19
< BlueTiger>
poor*
06:19
< Ev3>
I have home on the other bøx.
06:19
< Ev3>
IN DANISH!
06:19
< Stephenie>
GRAH no versioning me
06:19
< Ev3>
And the translators should be shot.
06:19
< Ev3>
And shot again.
06:19
< Ev3>
And then fed to tigers.
06:19
< Ev3>
And then the tigers should be shot.
06:19 * Stephenie laughs
06:19
< Ev3>
And tossed into a volcano.
06:20
< Ev3>
For example! I can't label my drives as "C:"
06:20
< BlueTiger>
oooh, and then we can nuke the volcano
06:20
< BlueTiger>
:D
06:20 * Stephenie blink
06:20
< Ev3>
They HAVE to have a name.
06:20
< Stephenie>
WTF why is that?
06:20
< Ev3>
Because the translator sucks.
06:20
< Ev3>
And the best translation ever is "system idle process" being translated into what directly translates back as "active system process"
06:20
< Ev3>
Two very very different things.
06:21
< BlueTiger>
xD
06:21
< Stephenie>
@.@
06:21
< Ev3>
So I hacked taskmgr.exe and labeled it "Excess CPU output"
06:21 * Stephenie smacks her lips and pokes Ben cause she wants to talk to him
06:21
< Ev3>
Ban?
06:21
< Ev3>
Which is ben?
06:21
< Stephenie>
Ben...
06:21
< Stephenie>
ToxicFrog
06:21
< Ev3>
Ah!
06:21 * Ev3 dances with ToxicFrog.
06:21
< Stephenie>
NOOOO
06:21
< Stephenie>
my Ben
06:21 * Stephenie giggles
06:22
< Ev3>
NOOOO
06:22
< Ev3>
my Ben
06:22
< Stephenie>
GRAH!
06:22 * Ev3 giggles
06:22
< Ev3>
GRAH!
06:22 * Stephenie feels like she just walked into a room with her 5 yr old son
06:22
< Ev3>
ima 5 yr ol supaadupar typpist & i pwnzorz u all!!!!!"1!!!seveneleven!!!
06:22 * Stephenie laughs
06:22
< Stephenie>
He can type
06:23
< Ev3>
I can't.
06:23
< Stephenie>
i just have to tell him how to spell it
06:23
< Stephenie>
and then he takes YEARS
06:23
< Ev3>
Psh, english is my second language.
06:23
< Ev3>
And I use my specialized 7½ finger system.
06:23 * Stephenie blnks
06:23
< Stephenie>
blinks*
06:23
< Stephenie>
Okay... explain that one.
06:24
< Ev3>
I use 7½ fingers.
06:24
< Ev3>
Or well, I use 7, sometimes 8, but...
06:24
< Ev3>
Four on the right hand, three on the left.
06:24
< Ev3>
Index, long jogn and pinky. And right hand thumb.
06:24 * Stephenie blinks
06:24
< Ev3>
Left pinky is for ctrl, alt and shift + tab.
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06:25
< Ev3>
right pinky is for space.
06:25
< Ev3>
You checked the LDM?
06:25
< Takyoji>
I think I need to have GRUB reconfigured
06:25
< Stephenie>
erm..
06:25
< Ev3>
I think you need to check the LDM.
06:25
< Ev3>
If the LDM can see it it's correctly configured.
06:25
< Ev3>
See, LDM is the way to go.
06:25
< Takyoji>
Because I did it EXACTLY as you said, but I get a reading error from GRUB
06:25
< Ev3>
run->control->administration->Logical disk manager
06:25
< Stephenie>
because its not pulling from the same spot on the HDD
06:25
< Stephenie>
I told you that
06:26
< Stephenie>
If it can't find the Boot record its going to give you an error
06:26
< Stephenie>
in the same place
06:26
< Stephenie>
i'll clarify that
06:26
< Ev3>
BlueTiger said that ubuntu's standard formatting is ext2 or ext3 and hence will not show up in your computer.
06:26
< Stephenie>
And this is true
06:26
< Takyoji>
oh..
06:26
< Stephenie>
EXT 3 typically now
06:26
< Ev3>
So, open the LDM and if the LDM find and unpartitioned drive it's correctly wired.
06:27
< Ev3>
Then you get to blame ninjas.
06:27
< Ev3>
And my Ben.
06:27 * Stephenie giggles
06:27
< Stephenie>
NOOOOO MY BEN!
06:27
< Stephenie>
DAMNIt!
06:27
< Ev3>
:D
06:27 * Ev3 writes "Serah" all over ToxicFrog.
06:27
< Takyoji>
I don't see "Logical disk Manager"
06:28
< Takyoji>
Is it within "Computer Management"?
06:28 * Stephenie erases the Serah all the while glaring at her and tats "Property of Stephenie" on Ben's forhead
06:28
< Ev3>
It should be accessible through com, yes that.
06:28 * Ev3 writes "Property of Serah" on Stephenie's back meanwhile.
06:28
< Takyoji>
or.. disk management?
06:29
< Ev3>
Yes!
06:29
< Ev3>
Perhaps.
06:29
< Ev3>
I think.
06:29
< Ev3>
Maybe
06:29
< Stephenie>
Don't forget the color hun~
06:29
< Stephenie>
collar*
06:29
< Ev3>
Collar?
06:29
< Takyoji>
The HD appears in there
06:29
< Stephenie>
.... well when your someones property you have give them a collar to mark them as having an owner~
06:30
< Takyoji>
a part of it is properly partitioned, and 2.14 GB of it is partitioned properly but unknown
06:30
< Stephenie>
or brand them
06:30
< Ev3>
:D
06:30
< Takyoji>
I'll come back tomorrow
06:30
< Ev3>
It's a formatting problem.
06:30
< Ev3>
We're that far at least.
06:30
< Ev3>
Not wiring.
06:31
< Stephenie>
Wait
06:31
< Ev3>
There are two solutions.
06:31
< Stephenie>
You will never fix that probelm
06:31
< Takyoji>
Yea, the unknown part is possibly Ubuntu
06:31
< Stephenie>
no
06:31
< Stephenie>
i've had the same problem
06:31
< Stephenie>
EXACT same one :O
06:31
< Takyoji>
So..
06:31
< Stephenie>
on my box
06:31
< Ev3>
Either learn win to read ext3
06:31
< Ev3>
Or reformat it to something legible.
06:31
< Stephenie>
no no
06:31
< Takyoji>
Unistall GRUB?
06:31
< Stephenie>
really
06:31
< Stephenie>
no no nonono
06:31
< Takyoji>
then Ubuntu?
06:31
< Stephenie>
your not listening
06:31
< Stephenie>
STOP
06:31
< Takyoji>
stopping
06:31
< Stephenie>
I have the same problem on my box... there is no solution to fix it
06:31
< Stephenie>
Its an odd thing
06:32
< Stephenie>
And you are the only person that I know of that has had the same problem that I do
06:32
< Takyoji>
yeee!
06:32
< Takyoji>
I feel special
06:32
< Stephenie>
Linux will see it as the full drive.. hell even BIOS
06:32
< Stephenie>
windows will always see it as 2
06:32
< Takyoji>
yea
06:32
< Takyoji>
But mine doesn't see it as full
06:33
< Stephenie>
even in Linux?
06:33
< Stephenie>
or only in windows
06:33
< Takyoji>
Oh, I haven't even checked linux yet actually
06:33
< Stephenie>
... check linux
06:33
< Stephenie>
then tell me because it sounds like what mine has done
06:33
< Takyoji>
I REALLY need to leave,
06:33
< Stephenie>
and I've tried differernt drives same thing
06:33
< Stephenie>
tomorrow hun not tonight
06:34
< Takyoji>
yea, goodnight
06:34 * Stephenie throws a paperball at Serah when she isn't looking
06:34
< Stephenie>
Night :) Plesant dreams
06:34 * Ev3 isn't looking!
06:34
< Takyoji>
same to you
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06:37 * Ev3 dances with Stephenie.
06:39 * Stephenie dances with Serah
06:39
< Ev3>
What do you say; I should sleep now?
06:39
< Stephenie>
How long have you been up?
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06:40
< Ev3>
Long enough.
06:40
< Stephenie>
Then, yes get some sleep.
06:40 * Stephenie tucks Serah in making her all nice and comfy and warm
06:41
< Ev3>
Tugging me in is dangerous.
06:41
< Ev3>
I'm prone to abducting and snuggling.
06:41 * Stephenie doenst mind snuggling
06:41
< Stephenie>
doesn't*
06:42
< Ev3>
:D
06:42 * Ev3 abducts Stephenie for snugglage then.
06:43 * Stephenie snugglecuddles Serah
06:43
< Ev3>
Oh, and.
06:43
< Stephenie>
hmmm?
06:43 * Ev3 sneaks a collar on Stephenie.
06:44 * Stephenie chuckles and is collar'd
06:44
< Ev3>
Goodnight.
06:44
< Stephenie>
Goodnight hun pleasant blissful dreams
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13:13
<@ToxicFrog>
There's more than enough of me to go around ¬¬
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<@jerith>
Hey peoples.
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20:23
<@jerith>
Any bash gurus here?
20:24
<@jerith>
I have a large stack of files I want to burn to dvd, 13 files at a time.
20:24
<@jerith>
So I can get the next 13 with "ls | head -n 13"
20:24
<@jerith>
Except there are spaces in the filenames.
20:25
<@jerith>
And I can't find a way to escape them appropriately.
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21:59
<@ToxicFrog>
jerith: how are you processing the output from head?
22:06
<@jerith>
TF: don't worry, I found a way to do it by setting $IFS.
22:07
<@jerith>
I needed it in a for loop (which I can do using while and read) and also in a set of commandline arguments to growisofs.
22:08
<@ToxicFrog>
Aah.
22:08
<@ToxicFrog>
I was thinking something like:
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<@ToxicFrog>
function burnify() {
22:08
<@ToxicFrog>
while read filename; do
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<@ToxicFrog>
# stuff with "$filename" here
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<@ToxicFrog>
done
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<@ToxicFrog>
}
22:08
<@ToxicFrog>
ls | head -n 13 | burnify
22:09
<@jerith>
Yeah, except I can't do them one at a time. I need to give them all to growisofs at once.
22:09
<@ToxicFrog>
You can also abuse xargs --delimiter='\n'
22:09
<@jerith>
I was pondering a temp directory with hardlinks in it.
22:09
<@jerith>
TF: Hmm...
22:10
<@jerith>
I'll look into that tomorrow. Messing with $IFS makes me feel dirty.
22:10
<@ToxicFrog>
In fact, this lets you do away with head, too:
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<@ToxicFrog>
ls | xargs --delimiter='\n' -n 13 burnify_command
22:10
<@ToxicFrog>
Will invoke burnify_command on all the files in the directory, 13 at a time.
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22:20
<@jerith>
Anyways, I'm off to bed now. Thanks for your help.
22:20
<@jerith>
G'night.
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