code logs -> 2006 -> Mon, 04 Sep 2006< code.20060903.log - code.20060905.log >
--- Log opened Mon Sep 04 00:00:01 2006
--- Day changed Mon Sep 04 2006
00:00
<@Mahal>
Right.
00:00
<@Mahal>
How do I start it?
00:00
<@Mahal>
I know how in Redhat...
00:00
<@Vornicus-Latens>
If you install it, it will start itself.
00:00
<@Mahal>
... Ah!
00:00
<@Mahal>
apt-get install ssh-d ?
00:00
<@Mahal>
No, couldn't find package.
00:01
<@Vornicus-Latens>
sshd, rather
00:01
<@Mahal>
Tried that too.
00:01
<@Mahal>
couldn't find package sshd
00:01
<@Vornicus-Latens>
arg. use aptitude, it makes your life easier.
00:01
<@Mahal>
OK.
00:01
<@Mahal>
How?
00:01
<@Mahal>
:)
00:01
<@Vornicus-Latens>
Also it has built-in search.
00:01
<@Vornicus-Latens>
"aptitute"
00:01
<@Vornicus-Latens>
only, spelled right
00:03
<@Mahal>
Right.
00:03
<@Mahal>
I am looking at aptitude.
00:03
<@Mahal>
I am searchig for ssh.
00:04 * Mahal is heinously confused.
00:05
<@Mahal>
sshd is not found.
00:07
<@Vornicus-Latens>
...wtf
00:07
<@Vornicus-Latens>
...is this machine connected to the internet?
00:07
<@Mahal>
Yes, Vornicus-Latens
00:07
<@Mahal>
I've successfully SSH'd OUT of it.
00:07
<@Mahal>
I'm on the same subnet, not that that should matter.
00:08
<@Mahal>
I'm not tryign to ssh in as root user.
00:08
<@Mahal>
The exact command I am using from y apple laptop is:
00:08
<@Mahal>
ssh -l emma 192.168.1.5
00:10
<@Vornicus-Latens>
The reason I'm asking is that it sounds like you don't have a package list.
00:10
<@Mahal>
.. I do have a package list.
00:10
<@Mahal>
I could read them all to you, if you like :)
00:11
<@Mahal>
FINE.
00:11
<@Mahal>
apt-get install ssh
00:11
<@Mahal>
>.<
00:12
<@Mahal>
well I didn't /know/ that wasn't there >.<
00:12
<@Mahal>
blergh.
00:12
<@Vornicus-Latens>
...uh-huh
00:12
<@Mahal>
Right.
00:12
<@Mahal>
At least I can work from the local machine now.
00:17
<@Mahal>
Er.
00:17
<@Mahal>
Perl wants to know where my unzip program is.
00:18
<@Vornicus-Latens>
...wtf
00:18
<@Mahal>
Aggh, and I don't know how to run locatedb here.
00:18
<@Vornicus-Latens>
All this stuff should have come installed already.
00:19
<@Mahal>
/bin/gzip and /bin/tar I know how to find.
00:19
<@Mahal>
Warning: unzip not found in PATH
00:19
<@Mahal>
Where is your unzip program? []
00:20
<@Vornicus-Latens>
...and furthermore, it should have resolved those dependencies itself.
00:20
<@Mahal>
Yes.
00:20
<@Mahal>
Where is your gzip program? [/bin/gzip]
00:20
<@Mahal>
Where is your tar program? [/bin/tar]
00:20
<@Mahal>
It found those.
00:20
< ToxicFrog>
Aah, I see I'm not the only one who has issues with apt~
00:21
<@Mahal>
I'm not using apt
00:21
<@Mahal>
I need to install some cpan modules.
00:21
<@Mahal>
perl -MCPAN -eshell
00:21
<@Mahal>
was the command the instructions gave me, so.
00:23
< ToxicFrog>
I was referring to earlier woes finding sshd.
00:23
<@Reiver>
...All that came by default in ubuntu.
00:24
<@Reiver>
Surely they didn't strip the server install down /that/ much?
00:25
<@Mahal>
What.
00:25
<@Mahal>
The.
00:25
<@Mahal>
Fuck.
00:25
<@Mahal>
The farking computer is asking for the CD back in the drive!!!
00:25
< ToxicFrog>
00:25
<@Reiver>
00:25
< ToxicFrog>
I recommend installing Fedora~
00:26
<@Mahal>
Frog.
00:26
<@Reiver>
...It would appear you didn't get a full install. >.<
00:26
<@Mahal>
I usually use redhat.
00:26
<@Mahal>
I have to use debian for this particular project.
00:26
<@Mahal>
I am not happy about it.
00:26
<@Vornicus-Latens>
Mahal: the CD is one of the repositories Ubuntu uses.
00:26
<@Mahal>
Vornicus-Latens, wtf?
00:26
<@Mahal>
That's what the INternet is for.
00:26
< ToxicFrog>
Aah.
00:27
< ToxicFrog>
Vorn: why is it trying that /before/ the internet?
00:27
<@Mahal>
Yes.
00:27
< ToxicFrog>
Or, rather, having tried and failed, why is it asking for the CD rather than trying the internet, /then/ asking for the CD if that fails?
00:28
<@Mahal>
There's no MAKE.
00:28
<@Mahal>
DFUCK?
00:28
<@Mahal>
Or at least not accessible to perl.
00:28
< ToxicFrog>
What the hell?
00:28
<@Mahal>
I r confused.
00:29
<@Vornicus-Latens>
I don't know that.
00:29 * Vornicus-Latens eyes
00:29
< ToxicFrog>
(I must say that while I had many problems with apt, this wasn't one of them)
00:29
<@Mahal>
I'm not /using/ apt, frog.
00:29
<@Mahal>
this is cpan
00:29
<@Vornicus-Latens>
I used Ubuntu at home and I didn't have anywhere near the problems you seem to be having.
00:30
<@Mahal>
Vornicus-Latens, I'm fine with a desktop instal.
00:30
<@Mahal>
it's the server stuff farking me over.
00:30
<@Mahal>
waaaaat
00:30
<@Mahal>
... apache is unavailable for ubuntu what?
00:32
< ToxicFrog>
...
00:32
<@Vornicus-Latens>
wtf?
00:32
<@Vornicus-Latens>
okay, seriously?
00:32
<@Vornicus-Latens>
this is absurd.
00:32
<@Mahal>
Yes.
00:33
<@Mahal>
I KNOW.
00:33
<@Mahal>
>.<
00:33
<@Vornicus-Latens>
-- and I was using a server install, too --
00:33
<@Mahal>
I'm only doing this in the first place because I really cannot get the perl stuff working in redhat and I neeeeed that and argh.
00:33 * Mahal flails.
00:33
<@Mahal>
and boss is jumping up and down complaining at me.
00:33
<@Mahal>
and woe and spiders.
00:33
< ToxicFrog>
What's wrong with it in redhat?
00:34 * ToxicFrog offers Mahal biscuits
00:34
<@Mahal>
Frog: I have no fucking idea.
00:34
<@Mahal>
if I knew /that/, I'd be able to /fix/ it.
00:34
<@Mahal>
I'm over my head.
00:34
< ToxicFrog>
I mean, how does it behave?
00:34
<@Mahal>
About the best I can offer is "It doesn't work"
00:35
<@Mahal>
Um.
00:35
<@Mahal>
I'm going back to it.
00:35
<@Mahal>
Gimme five to catch up where I was ;)
00:36
<@Mahal>
....
00:36
<@Mahal>
Bloody.
00:36
<@Mahal>
Fucking.
00:36
<@Mahal>
@#($) #&@#(*
00:36
<@Vornicus-Latens>
?
00:36
<@Mahal>
Why did it decide to work this time, after CONTINUOUSLY NOT WORKING on my previous five attempts with redhat???????
00:36
<@Mahal>
ARGHGHHHSGHSHGS>
00:38
<@Vornicus-Latens>
uh-huh
00:38
<@Mahal>
I am so donfused.
00:38
<@Mahal>
>.<
00:39
<@Mahal>
(Sorry for flailing all over the place.)
00:39
<@Mahal>
I will attempt Ubuntu in some spare time another time.
00:44 * Mahal is just confuzzled.
00:45
<@Reiver>
Mahal, it sounds like your Ubuntu install didn't work right.
00:45
<@Reiver>
Given I've never heard of such strange and arcane error stuffs like /that/ before...
00:45
<@Mahal>
Reiver, I have /no/ idea.
00:45
<@Mahal>
I much prefer Fedora anyway.
00:45 * Reiver huggles Mahal.
00:45 * Mahal decides screw the boss and project requirements, it's GOING on REDHAT.
00:45
<@Mahal>
and hopefully it'll work at some stage >.<
00:46
<@Reiver>
...Eheh. You may hit more headaches at a later date.
00:46
<@Mahal>
Reiv, I /will/
00:46
<@Mahal>
I already /know/ this.
00:46
<@Mahal>
But at least I /know/ how to handle redhat.
00:47
<@Reiver>
Ooookay, den.
00:47 * Reiver huggles.
00:48
<@Mahal>
I mean, I can do basic shit like starting services all bymyself :)
00:48
<@Mahal>
Although I've utterly forgotten how to set redhat to init in text mode not graphical.
00:48
<@Mahal>
(If anyone wants to remind me, it'd be appreciated ;) )
00:51
<@Vornicus-Latens>
pff
00:52
< ToxicFrog>
Mahal: /etc/inittab, set initdefault to 3
00:52
<@Mahal>
... d'oh.
00:52 * Mahal thwapself.
00:53
<@Mahal>
id:3:initdefault:
00:53
<@Mahal>
Correct?
00:56 * Mahal decides that if it's not, it's close enough
00:56
< ToxicFrog>
Yes.
01:20
<@Mahal>
Installing cpan modules is boring.
01:22
<@Mahal>
... uh-oh.
01:22
<@Mahal>
Um.
01:24
< ToxicFrog>
?
01:24
<@Mahal>
As far as I can decipher...
01:24
<@Mahal>
the module I need can't be found.
01:25
<@Mahal>
or ftp.perl.org is down.
01:25
<@Mahal>
or something.
01:25 * Mahal attempts to understand the log.
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01:37 * Mahal tries to remember how to kill a process.
01:37
<@Mahal>
>.<
01:37
<@Mahal>
why am I such an idiot today.
01:39
<@Vornicus-Latens>
"kill"
01:40
<@Mahal>
Yeah.
01:40
<@Mahal>
Can't remember how to find the pid
01:51
< ToxicFrog>
pd
01:51
< ToxicFrog>
Err.
01:51
< ToxicFrog>
ps
01:51
< ToxicFrog>
Or pgrep
01:51
< ToxicFrog>
Or 'killall processname'
01:52
<@Mahal>
Danke.
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06:51
<@Reiver>
Incidentally!
06:51
<@Reiver>
I got 74.5% on that board!
06:51
< Vornicus-Latens>
chessboard?
06:51
<@Reiver>
Yus!
06:51
<@Reiver>
That was worth 20% of my course grade.
06:52
< Vornicus-Latens>
How does that compare to the rest of the class?
06:52
<@Reiver>
Pretty good.
06:52
<@Reiver>
Most folks got ~100%, ~80%, or ~30%.
06:52 * Mahal congratulatinates!!!!
06:53
< EvilDarkLord>
Glad you weren't in category 3 then. Congratsies.
06:53
< Eve>
Grats.
06:53
<@Reiver>
The last one being mostly due to having the correct number of classes, useful documentation, and a few other sundry things were worth marks themselves.
06:53
<@Reiver>
It would appear my AI did not work perfectly; it seems there was a bug in it somewhere when AI vs AI was piped through.
06:54
<@Reiver>
As I got docked a bunch of marks on the AI player; otherwise I did pretty good. :)
06:54
<@Reiver>
So! Thankye to the folks that helped - it actually worked out. ^_^
07:24
< Vornicus-Latens>
yay
08:07
<@Mahal>
I need to transfer files into a server that does not have FTP running.
08:07
<@Mahal>
Help?
08:08
< Vornicus-Latens>
scp
08:08
< Vornicus-Latens>
sftp
08:08
< Vornicus-Latens>
rsync
08:08
< Vornicus-Latens>
wget
08:09
<@Mahal>
... off my windows desktop is the problem.
08:09
< Vornicus-Latens>
cd
08:09 * Mahal grin
08:09
< Vornicus-Latens>
dcc
08:09
< Vornicus-Latens>
Filezilla can do sftp
08:10
< Eve>
VNC / Remote desktop.
08:10
<@Mahal>
Eve, not on this machine
08:10
<@Mahal>
(it's linux)
08:10
<@Mahal>
(command line access only)
08:10
< Vornicus-Latens>
smb
08:10
<@Mahal>
Bugger it.
08:10
< Eve>
So, from your windows desktop to a linux command line access only. It has SSH, I assume?
08:10
<@Mahal>
I'll ftp up to another *nix server then rsync from there.
08:12
<@Mahal>
(seeing as I'm currently at the mac laptop and rally can't be fucked moving).
08:12
<@Mahal>
Seeing as it's 7pm and I've worked all day and not yet stopped :)
08:13
< Vornicus-Latens>
hey, look, you have a *nix server on your lap.
08:13
<@Mahal>
Yes.
08:13 * Reiver huggles Mahal!
08:13
<@Mahal>
But not the files in question :P
08:13
<@Reiver>
You racking up the hours-in-leu? ;)
08:13
< Vornicus-Latens>
bah
08:13
<@Mahal>
Reiv, yes.
08:13
<@Mahal>
I'm trying to justify to Bossman giving me the 28th and 29th off.
08:13
<@Reiver>
Ah!
08:13
<@Mahal>
if I can get this FUCKIG THING going by then, he really /can't/ complain
08:20
<@Mahal>
Bay.
08:20
<@Mahal>
Can never remember rsync syntax.
08:21
< Vornicus-Latens>
ymmv
08:21
< Vornicus-Latens>
ianal
08:22
< Vornicus-Latens>
omgwtfusbbbq
08:22
<@Reiver>
...???
08:23
< EvilDarkLord>
Clearly this is some kind of coded syntax.
08:23
<@Mahal>
...
08:24
< Vornicus-Latens>
http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2006/08/usb_bbq.html <--- omgwtfusbbbq
08:24
< GeoTube>
HE IS POSSESSED! GET THE DRY ICE, STAT!
08:25
< Vornicus-Latens>
http://catball.comicgenesis.com/d/20011111.html Also, no feet.
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20:57
<@Mahal>
So it turns out Cyberduck can do sftp.
21:30
<@ToxicFrog>
Cyberduck?
21:30
<@Mahal>
FTP client for mac
21:31
<@ToxicFrog>
Aah.
21:37
< GeoTube>
Nothing to do with Chalain's duck?
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23:18
<@Mahal>
Hrmmm.
23:18
<@Mahal>
I am installing an Ubuntu desktop.
23:18
<@Mahal>
I need a Discwordly name for me.
23:18
<@Mahal>
*t
23:18
<@Mahal>
*it
23:18
< McMartin>
Howandaland.
23:18
< McMartin>
I think
23:18
<@Mahal>
Correct.
23:18 * McMartin would need to check a map.
23:19
<@Mahal>
Nono, you're quite correct.
23:19
<@Mahal>
I approve!!!
23:19
<@Mahal>
=uses=
23:19 * McMartin cues the THOUSAND ELEPHANTS
23:19
<@Mahal>
YES
23:19 * McMartin is tempted to rebuild Spiff.
23:42
< Vornicus>
As in Spaceman?
23:42
< McMartin>
That is, indeed, who the machine was named after.
23:43
< McMartin>
Likewise, the machine I am typing on now -- Zinglon -- is as in Soul of and Cult of.
23:43 * Mahal has a Discworld network...
23:44
<@Mahal>
Windoze workgroup is Discworld.
23:44
<@Mahal>
Wireless SSID is TheClacks
23:44 * Vornicus has only one computer at the moment, and it is named Gardner.
23:44
<@Mahal>
The main tower/server/etc is TowerOfArt
23:44
<@Mahal>
laptop is Twoflower.
23:44
<@Mahal>
Boy's laptop is TheLuggage
23:44
<@Mahal>
iPods are Imp and SapientPearwood.
23:44
< McMartin>
Our lab has a cheese theme.
23:44
< Vornicus>
Stinking Bishop?
23:44
<@Mahal>
Friend of mine (Colitis on this network) has Muppets :D
23:45
<@Mahal>
(At his work, thatis.)
23:46
< McMartin>
Vorn: The standard workhorse machines have names like swiss and cheddar.
23:46
< McMartin>
The very strong ones that need segregation (e.g., huge servers, etc.) are stilton or chevre or limburger
23:46
<@Mahal>
I recommend pikador.
23:46
< McMartin>
And the laptops all have names like velveeta and handi-snack.
23:46
< McMartin>
My laptop is named "fondue".
23:47
<@Mahal>
I need to build a box that can just quietly sit in the corner and fileserve to the other machines.
23:47
<@Mahal>
I /first/ need to wokr out how to make the Mac reconnect to network mappings on boot.
23:48 * Vornicus needs to move his server stuff off his machine.
23:48
<@Mahal>
I currently have three mchines that I need to cannabalise and turn into one semi-decent boxen.
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23:48
<@Mahal>
then turf spares.
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23:49
< McMartin>
Speaking of fondue, I should go wander off to somewhere more pleasant to get some work done.
23:49
<@Mahal>
Aww.
23:49
<@Mahal>
We're not pleasant?
23:49 * Mahal pouts.
23:49
< McMartin>
There are places more pleasant than my apartment.
23:49
<@Mahal>
Granted.
23:49
< McMartin>
Particularly in cities where The Might Of Google provides omnipresent wireless.
23:49
<@Mahal>
Well, in the generic sense that Out > Home.
23:50
<@Mahal>
No criticism of your home intended :)
23:50 * McMartin lives in a nice city, and so Out > Home.
23:50
< McMartin>
This has not always been true.
23:50 * Mahal nod.
23:50
<@Mahal>
My flat isn't a bad place.
23:50
<@Mahal>
But out is often preferable.
23:50
<@Mahal>
Then, I live alone, so it's MY SPACE.
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