--- Log opened Mon Sep 04 00:00:01 2006 |
--- Day changed Mon Sep 04 2006 |
00:00 | <@Mahal> | Right. |
00:00 | <@Mahal> | How do I start it? |
00:00 | <@Mahal> | I know how in Redhat... |
00:00 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | If you install it, it will start itself. |
00:00 | <@Mahal> | ... Ah! |
00:00 | <@Mahal> | apt-get install ssh-d ? |
00:00 | <@Mahal> | No, couldn't find package. |
00:01 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | sshd, rather |
00:01 | <@Mahal> | Tried that too. |
00:01 | <@Mahal> | couldn't find package sshd |
00:01 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | arg. use aptitude, it makes your life easier. |
00:01 | <@Mahal> | OK. |
00:01 | <@Mahal> | How? |
00:01 | <@Mahal> | :) |
00:01 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | Also it has built-in search. |
00:01 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | "aptitute" |
00:01 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | only, spelled right |
00:03 | <@Mahal> | Right. |
00:03 | <@Mahal> | I am looking at aptitude. |
00:03 | <@Mahal> | I am searchig for ssh. |
00:04 | | * Mahal is heinously confused. |
00:05 | <@Mahal> | sshd is not found. |
00:07 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | ...wtf |
00:07 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | ...is this machine connected to the internet? |
00:07 | <@Mahal> | Yes, Vornicus-Latens |
00:07 | <@Mahal> | I've successfully SSH'd OUT of it. |
00:07 | <@Mahal> | I'm on the same subnet, not that that should matter. |
00:08 | <@Mahal> | I'm not tryign to ssh in as root user. |
00:08 | <@Mahal> | The exact command I am using from y apple laptop is: |
00:08 | <@Mahal> | ssh -l emma 192.168.1.5 |
00:10 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | The reason I'm asking is that it sounds like you don't have a package list. |
00:10 | <@Mahal> | .. I do have a package list. |
00:10 | <@Mahal> | I could read them all to you, if you like :) |
00:11 | <@Mahal> | FINE. |
00:11 | <@Mahal> | apt-get install ssh |
00:11 | <@Mahal> | >.< |
00:12 | <@Mahal> | well I didn't /know/ that wasn't there >.< |
00:12 | <@Mahal> | blergh. |
00:12 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | ...uh-huh |
00:12 | <@Mahal> | Right. |
00:12 | <@Mahal> | At least I can work from the local machine now. |
00:17 | <@Mahal> | Er. |
00:17 | <@Mahal> | Perl wants to know where my unzip program is. |
00:18 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | ...wtf |
00:18 | <@Mahal> | Aggh, and I don't know how to run locatedb here. |
00:18 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | All this stuff should have come installed already. |
00:19 | <@Mahal> | /bin/gzip and /bin/tar I know how to find. |
00:19 | <@Mahal> | Warning: unzip not found in PATH |
00:19 | <@Mahal> | Where is your unzip program? [] |
00:20 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | ...and furthermore, it should have resolved those dependencies itself. |
00:20 | <@Mahal> | Yes. |
00:20 | <@Mahal> | Where is your gzip program? [/bin/gzip] |
00:20 | <@Mahal> | Where is your tar program? [/bin/tar] |
00:20 | <@Mahal> | It found those. |
00:20 | < ToxicFrog> | Aah, I see I'm not the only one who has issues with apt~ |
00:21 | <@Mahal> | I'm not using apt |
00:21 | <@Mahal> | I need to install some cpan modules. |
00:21 | <@Mahal> | perl -MCPAN -eshell |
00:21 | <@Mahal> | was the command the instructions gave me, so. |
00:23 | < ToxicFrog> | I was referring to earlier woes finding sshd. |
00:23 | <@Reiver> | ...All that came by default in ubuntu. |
00:24 | <@Reiver> | Surely they didn't strip the server install down /that/ much? |
00:25 | <@Mahal> | What. |
00:25 | <@Mahal> | The. |
00:25 | <@Mahal> | Fuck. |
00:25 | <@Mahal> | The farking computer is asking for the CD back in the drive!!! |
00:25 | < ToxicFrog> | |
00:25 | <@Reiver> | |
00:25 | < ToxicFrog> | I recommend installing Fedora~ |
00:26 | <@Mahal> | Frog. |
00:26 | <@Reiver> | ...It would appear you didn't get a full install. >.< |
00:26 | <@Mahal> | I usually use redhat. |
00:26 | <@Mahal> | I have to use debian for this particular project. |
00:26 | <@Mahal> | I am not happy about it. |
00:26 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | Mahal: the CD is one of the repositories Ubuntu uses. |
00:26 | <@Mahal> | Vornicus-Latens, wtf? |
00:26 | <@Mahal> | That's what the INternet is for. |
00:26 | < ToxicFrog> | Aah. |
00:27 | < ToxicFrog> | Vorn: why is it trying that /before/ the internet? |
00:27 | <@Mahal> | Yes. |
00:27 | < ToxicFrog> | Or, rather, having tried and failed, why is it asking for the CD rather than trying the internet, /then/ asking for the CD if that fails? |
00:28 | <@Mahal> | There's no MAKE. |
00:28 | <@Mahal> | DFUCK? |
00:28 | <@Mahal> | Or at least not accessible to perl. |
00:28 | < ToxicFrog> | What the hell? |
00:28 | <@Mahal> | I r confused. |
00:29 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | I don't know that. |
00:29 | | * Vornicus-Latens eyes |
00:29 | < ToxicFrog> | (I must say that while I had many problems with apt, this wasn't one of them) |
00:29 | <@Mahal> | I'm not /using/ apt, frog. |
00:29 | <@Mahal> | this is cpan |
00:29 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | I used Ubuntu at home and I didn't have anywhere near the problems you seem to be having. |
00:30 | <@Mahal> | Vornicus-Latens, I'm fine with a desktop instal. |
00:30 | <@Mahal> | it's the server stuff farking me over. |
00:30 | <@Mahal> | waaaaat |
00:30 | <@Mahal> | ... apache is unavailable for ubuntu what? |
00:32 | < ToxicFrog> | ... |
00:32 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | wtf? |
00:32 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | okay, seriously? |
00:32 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | this is absurd. |
00:32 | <@Mahal> | Yes. |
00:33 | <@Mahal> | I KNOW. |
00:33 | <@Mahal> | >.< |
00:33 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | -- and I was using a server install, too -- |
00:33 | <@Mahal> | I'm only doing this in the first place because I really cannot get the perl stuff working in redhat and I neeeeed that and argh. |
00:33 | | * Mahal flails. |
00:33 | <@Mahal> | and boss is jumping up and down complaining at me. |
00:33 | <@Mahal> | and woe and spiders. |
00:33 | < ToxicFrog> | What's wrong with it in redhat? |
00:34 | | * ToxicFrog offers Mahal biscuits |
00:34 | <@Mahal> | Frog: I have no fucking idea. |
00:34 | <@Mahal> | if I knew /that/, I'd be able to /fix/ it. |
00:34 | <@Mahal> | I'm over my head. |
00:34 | < ToxicFrog> | I mean, how does it behave? |
00:34 | <@Mahal> | About the best I can offer is "It doesn't work" |
00:35 | <@Mahal> | Um. |
00:35 | <@Mahal> | I'm going back to it. |
00:35 | <@Mahal> | Gimme five to catch up where I was ;) |
00:36 | <@Mahal> | .... |
00:36 | <@Mahal> | Bloody. |
00:36 | <@Mahal> | Fucking. |
00:36 | <@Mahal> | @#($) #&@#(* |
00:36 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | ? |
00:36 | <@Mahal> | Why did it decide to work this time, after CONTINUOUSLY NOT WORKING on my previous five attempts with redhat??????? |
00:36 | <@Mahal> | ARGHGHHHSGHSHGS> |
00:38 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | uh-huh |
00:38 | <@Mahal> | I am so donfused. |
00:38 | <@Mahal> | >.< |
00:39 | <@Mahal> | (Sorry for flailing all over the place.) |
00:39 | <@Mahal> | I will attempt Ubuntu in some spare time another time. |
00:44 | | * Mahal is just confuzzled. |
00:45 | <@Reiver> | Mahal, it sounds like your Ubuntu install didn't work right. |
00:45 | <@Reiver> | Given I've never heard of such strange and arcane error stuffs like /that/ before... |
00:45 | <@Mahal> | Reiver, I have /no/ idea. |
00:45 | <@Mahal> | I much prefer Fedora anyway. |
00:45 | | * Reiver huggles Mahal. |
00:45 | | * Mahal decides screw the boss and project requirements, it's GOING on REDHAT. |
00:45 | <@Mahal> | and hopefully it'll work at some stage >.< |
00:46 | <@Reiver> | ...Eheh. You may hit more headaches at a later date. |
00:46 | <@Mahal> | Reiv, I /will/ |
00:46 | <@Mahal> | I already /know/ this. |
00:46 | <@Mahal> | But at least I /know/ how to handle redhat. |
00:47 | <@Reiver> | Ooookay, den. |
00:47 | | * Reiver huggles. |
00:48 | <@Mahal> | I mean, I can do basic shit like starting services all bymyself :) |
00:48 | <@Mahal> | Although I've utterly forgotten how to set redhat to init in text mode not graphical. |
00:48 | <@Mahal> | (If anyone wants to remind me, it'd be appreciated ;) ) |
00:51 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | pff |
00:52 | < ToxicFrog> | Mahal: /etc/inittab, set initdefault to 3 |
00:52 | <@Mahal> | ... d'oh. |
00:52 | | * Mahal thwapself. |
00:53 | <@Mahal> | id:3:initdefault: |
00:53 | <@Mahal> | Correct? |
00:56 | | * Mahal decides that if it's not, it's close enough |
00:56 | < ToxicFrog> | Yes. |
01:20 | <@Mahal> | Installing cpan modules is boring. |
01:22 | <@Mahal> | ... uh-oh. |
01:22 | <@Mahal> | Um. |
01:24 | < ToxicFrog> | ? |
01:24 | <@Mahal> | As far as I can decipher... |
01:24 | <@Mahal> | the module I need can't be found. |
01:25 | <@Mahal> | or ftp.perl.org is down. |
01:25 | <@Mahal> | or something. |
01:25 | | * Mahal attempts to understand the log. |
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01:37 | | * Mahal tries to remember how to kill a process. |
01:37 | <@Mahal> | >.< |
01:37 | <@Mahal> | why am I such an idiot today. |
01:39 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | "kill" |
01:40 | <@Mahal> | Yeah. |
01:40 | <@Mahal> | Can't remember how to find the pid |
01:51 | < ToxicFrog> | pd |
01:51 | < ToxicFrog> | Err. |
01:51 | < ToxicFrog> | ps |
01:51 | < ToxicFrog> | Or pgrep |
01:51 | < ToxicFrog> | Or 'killall processname' |
01:52 | <@Mahal> | Danke. |
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06:51 | <@Reiver> | Incidentally! |
06:51 | <@Reiver> | I got 74.5% on that board! |
06:51 | < Vornicus-Latens> | chessboard? |
06:51 | <@Reiver> | Yus! |
06:51 | <@Reiver> | That was worth 20% of my course grade. |
06:52 | < Vornicus-Latens> | How does that compare to the rest of the class? |
06:52 | <@Reiver> | Pretty good. |
06:52 | <@Reiver> | Most folks got ~100%, ~80%, or ~30%. |
06:52 | | * Mahal congratulatinates!!!! |
06:53 | < EvilDarkLord> | Glad you weren't in category 3 then. Congratsies. |
06:53 | < Eve> | Grats. |
06:53 | <@Reiver> | The last one being mostly due to having the correct number of classes, useful documentation, and a few other sundry things were worth marks themselves. |
06:53 | <@Reiver> | It would appear my AI did not work perfectly; it seems there was a bug in it somewhere when AI vs AI was piped through. |
06:54 | <@Reiver> | As I got docked a bunch of marks on the AI player; otherwise I did pretty good. :) |
06:54 | <@Reiver> | So! Thankye to the folks that helped - it actually worked out. ^_^ |
07:24 | < Vornicus-Latens> | yay |
08:07 | <@Mahal> | I need to transfer files into a server that does not have FTP running. |
08:07 | <@Mahal> | Help? |
08:08 | < Vornicus-Latens> | scp |
08:08 | < Vornicus-Latens> | sftp |
08:08 | < Vornicus-Latens> | rsync |
08:08 | < Vornicus-Latens> | wget |
08:09 | <@Mahal> | ... off my windows desktop is the problem. |
08:09 | < Vornicus-Latens> | cd |
08:09 | | * Mahal grin |
08:09 | < Vornicus-Latens> | dcc |
08:09 | < Vornicus-Latens> | Filezilla can do sftp |
08:10 | < Eve> | VNC / Remote desktop. |
08:10 | <@Mahal> | Eve, not on this machine |
08:10 | <@Mahal> | (it's linux) |
08:10 | <@Mahal> | (command line access only) |
08:10 | < Vornicus-Latens> | smb |
08:10 | <@Mahal> | Bugger it. |
08:10 | < Eve> | So, from your windows desktop to a linux command line access only. It has SSH, I assume? |
08:10 | <@Mahal> | I'll ftp up to another *nix server then rsync from there. |
08:12 | <@Mahal> | (seeing as I'm currently at the mac laptop and rally can't be fucked moving). |
08:12 | <@Mahal> | Seeing as it's 7pm and I've worked all day and not yet stopped :) |
08:13 | < Vornicus-Latens> | hey, look, you have a *nix server on your lap. |
08:13 | <@Mahal> | Yes. |
08:13 | | * Reiver huggles Mahal! |
08:13 | <@Mahal> | But not the files in question :P |
08:13 | <@Reiver> | You racking up the hours-in-leu? ;) |
08:13 | < Vornicus-Latens> | bah |
08:13 | <@Mahal> | Reiv, yes. |
08:13 | <@Mahal> | I'm trying to justify to Bossman giving me the 28th and 29th off. |
08:13 | <@Reiver> | Ah! |
08:13 | <@Mahal> | if I can get this FUCKIG THING going by then, he really /can't/ complain |
08:20 | <@Mahal> | Bay. |
08:20 | <@Mahal> | Can never remember rsync syntax. |
08:21 | < Vornicus-Latens> | ymmv |
08:21 | < Vornicus-Latens> | ianal |
08:22 | < Vornicus-Latens> | omgwtfusbbbq |
08:22 | <@Reiver> | ...??? |
08:23 | < EvilDarkLord> | Clearly this is some kind of coded syntax. |
08:23 | <@Mahal> | ... |
08:24 | < Vornicus-Latens> | http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2006/08/usb_bbq.html <--- omgwtfusbbbq |
08:24 | < GeoTube> | HE IS POSSESSED! GET THE DRY ICE, STAT! |
08:25 | < Vornicus-Latens> | http://catball.comicgenesis.com/d/20011111.html Also, no feet. |
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20:57 | <@Mahal> | So it turns out Cyberduck can do sftp. |
21:30 | <@ToxicFrog> | Cyberduck? |
21:30 | <@Mahal> | FTP client for mac |
21:31 | <@ToxicFrog> | Aah. |
21:37 | < GeoTube> | Nothing to do with Chalain's duck? |
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23:18 | <@Mahal> | Hrmmm. |
23:18 | <@Mahal> | I am installing an Ubuntu desktop. |
23:18 | <@Mahal> | I need a Discwordly name for me. |
23:18 | <@Mahal> | *t |
23:18 | <@Mahal> | *it |
23:18 | < McMartin> | Howandaland. |
23:18 | < McMartin> | I think |
23:18 | <@Mahal> | Correct. |
23:18 | | * McMartin would need to check a map. |
23:19 | <@Mahal> | Nono, you're quite correct. |
23:19 | <@Mahal> | I approve!!! |
23:19 | <@Mahal> | =uses= |
23:19 | | * McMartin cues the THOUSAND ELEPHANTS |
23:19 | <@Mahal> | YES |
23:19 | | * McMartin is tempted to rebuild Spiff. |
23:42 | < Vornicus> | As in Spaceman? |
23:42 | < McMartin> | That is, indeed, who the machine was named after. |
23:43 | < McMartin> | Likewise, the machine I am typing on now -- Zinglon -- is as in Soul of and Cult of. |
23:43 | | * Mahal has a Discworld network... |
23:44 | <@Mahal> | Windoze workgroup is Discworld. |
23:44 | <@Mahal> | Wireless SSID is TheClacks |
23:44 | | * Vornicus has only one computer at the moment, and it is named Gardner. |
23:44 | <@Mahal> | The main tower/server/etc is TowerOfArt |
23:44 | <@Mahal> | laptop is Twoflower. |
23:44 | <@Mahal> | Boy's laptop is TheLuggage |
23:44 | <@Mahal> | iPods are Imp and SapientPearwood. |
23:44 | < McMartin> | Our lab has a cheese theme. |
23:44 | < Vornicus> | Stinking Bishop? |
23:44 | <@Mahal> | Friend of mine (Colitis on this network) has Muppets :D |
23:45 | <@Mahal> | (At his work, thatis.) |
23:46 | < McMartin> | Vorn: The standard workhorse machines have names like swiss and cheddar. |
23:46 | < McMartin> | The very strong ones that need segregation (e.g., huge servers, etc.) are stilton or chevre or limburger |
23:46 | <@Mahal> | I recommend pikador. |
23:46 | < McMartin> | And the laptops all have names like velveeta and handi-snack. |
23:46 | < McMartin> | My laptop is named "fondue". |
23:47 | <@Mahal> | I need to build a box that can just quietly sit in the corner and fileserve to the other machines. |
23:47 | <@Mahal> | I /first/ need to wokr out how to make the Mac reconnect to network mappings on boot. |
23:48 | | * Vornicus needs to move his server stuff off his machine. |
23:48 | <@Mahal> | I currently have three mchines that I need to cannabalise and turn into one semi-decent boxen. |
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23:48 | <@Mahal> | then turf spares. |
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23:49 | < McMartin> | Speaking of fondue, I should go wander off to somewhere more pleasant to get some work done. |
23:49 | <@Mahal> | Aww. |
23:49 | <@Mahal> | We're not pleasant? |
23:49 | | * Mahal pouts. |
23:49 | < McMartin> | There are places more pleasant than my apartment. |
23:49 | <@Mahal> | Granted. |
23:49 | < McMartin> | Particularly in cities where The Might Of Google provides omnipresent wireless. |
23:49 | <@Mahal> | Well, in the generic sense that Out > Home. |
23:50 | <@Mahal> | No criticism of your home intended :) |
23:50 | | * McMartin lives in a nice city, and so Out > Home. |
23:50 | < McMartin> | This has not always been true. |
23:50 | | * Mahal nod. |
23:50 | <@Mahal> | My flat isn't a bad place. |
23:50 | <@Mahal> | But out is often preferable. |
23:50 | <@Mahal> | Then, I live alone, so it's MY SPACE. |
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