| --- Log opened Wed Jul 26 00:00:45 2006 |
| 00:13 | | Syloq is now known as Syloqs-AFH |
| 01:45 | <@ReivZzz> | I was ravished by penguins. |
| 01:45 | <@ReivZzz> | They didn't even provide lube. |
| 01:45 | <@ReivZzz> | ;_; |
| 01:46 | <@Chalcedon> | Reiver, you need to go up to find the gutter |
| 01:47 | <@ReivZzz> | Chalcedon: Bloody tux. |
| 01:47 | <@Chalcedon> | ? |
| 01:47 | <@Chalcedon> | I have a web page |
| 01:47 | <@Chalcedon> | it doesn't look too bad |
| 01:48 | <@ReivZzz> | Yay web page! |
| 02:04 | | ReivZzz is now known as ReivWr0k |
| 02:36 | | * ToxicFrog|AFK eyebrows at Reiv |
| 05:42 | | ReivWr0k is now known as Reiver |
| 05:43 | | * Reiver points TF to his backscroll. |
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| 09:24 | | You're now known as TheWatcher[wr0k] |
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| 10:22 | | * TheWatcher[wr0k] readsup, notes something |
| 10:22 | <@Reiver> | ?? |
| 10:22 | < TheWatcher[wr0k]> | Chalcedon: whre's your website? |
| 10:23 | < TheWatcher[wr0k]> | Idly Reiv, did oyu get eclipse to install? |
| 10:23 | < Chalcedon> | its not currently functioning correctly and has a lot of work to go, but: |
| 10:23 | < Chalcedon> | http://www.wamaa.orcon.net.nz/NMI/about.html |
| 10:23 | < Chalcedon> | we're currently stashing it there for opinions etc. |
| 10:23 | <@Reiver> | No luck yet, TW |
| 10:24 | <@Reiver> | But I have it installed in windows just fine >.> |
| 10:24 | < Chalcedon> | well, actually, that should be ...nmi.html |
| 10:28 | | * Chalcedon pokes it |
| 10:28 | < Chalcedon> | there must be a way to do that. |
| 10:28 | < TheWatcher[wr0k]> | It's clean and well coded, I like it. |
| 10:29 | < TheWatcher[wr0k]> | (although I do note some unquoted attribues - for example '<div id=main>' should be '<div id="main">'. But that's only really an issue if you want to swithc the doctype to XHTML |
| 10:30 | < TheWatcher[wr0k]> | ) |
| 10:30 | < Chalcedon> | considering the last time I tried looking at xhtml I nearly fried my brain this is not an issue. |
| 10:31 | < TheWatcher[wr0k]> | Heh. :) |
| 10:31 | < Chalcedon> | though I'll probably go back and do that... cos well... good habits and all. |
| 10:31 | | * TheWatcher[wr0k] nods |
| 10:32 | < Chalcedon> | now I just need to fix stuff like the white hole in the middle and figure out a menu, and... |
| 10:32 | | * Chalcedon suspects she should start a list |
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| 10:39 | < Mahal> | ... thankyou? |
| 10:39 | <@Reiver> | ...1) You should probably have that disabled. |
| 10:39 | < Mahal> | *cough*gaim*cough* |
| 10:39 | <@Reiver> | 2) Eclipse. What is this 'Package' of which it is asking about? |
| 10:39 | < Chalcedon> | ? |
| 10:39 | < Mahal> | 2) no idea. |
| 10:39 | < Mahal> | more information would be useful. |
| 10:40 | <@Reiver> | I'm trying to start a new project. |
| 10:40 | < Chalcedon> | what is Eclipse? |
| 10:40 | < Mahal> | Oh. |
| 10:40 | <@Reiver> | Source Folder, Package, etc |
| 10:40 | < Mahal> | brb while I work it out, Rev, it's been a while. |
| 10:41 | < Mahal> | Um. |
| 10:41 | < Mahal> | I just... it jsut worked, here. |
| 10:41 | <@Reiver> | Oh. Okay. |
| 10:41 | <@Reiver> | Sorry. |
| 10:41 | < Mahal> | It's OK :) |
| 10:42 | <@Reiver> | So just leave as default, or throw some random name in? |
| 10:42 | < Mahal> | ... I dunno. |
| 10:42 | < Mahal> | can't find the problem. |
| 10:44 | <@Reiver> | Oh, I get it. |
| 10:44 | <@Reiver> | NM |
| 10:54 | < TheWatcher[wr0k]> | (this is why you should use emacs ;P *flrrrrrd*) |
| 10:54 | | * Reiver ties TW up in cat5 bondage cabling. |
| 10:55 | < TheWatcher[wr0k]> | EEp! |
| 10:57 | | * Reiver has TW flogged with IDE ribbons. |
| 10:58 | < TheWatcher[wr0k]> | I take it from this reaction that a fan of emacs you are not? :p |
| 10:58 | < Chalcedon> | night TW thanks for the comments :) |
| 11:00 | <@Reiver> | TW: I... well, I don't really mind it, I guess. |
| 11:00 | <@Reiver> | But it /is/ somewhat clunky. >.> |
| 11:03 | | * TheWatcher[wr0k] shrugs, always ends uo going back to it because no editor he has tried since GoldED back on the Amiga provides as many features (especially neat things like code folding out of the box) |
| 11:03 | <@Reiver> | code folding? |
| 11:08 | < TheWatcher[wr0k]> | probably best shown with an example: http://starforge.co.uk/images/folded.png v http://starforge.co.uk/images/unfolded.png |
| 11:09 | < TheWatcher[wr0k]> | Makes navigating larger sources much, much easier |
| 11:14 | <@Reiver> | ...In other words, Lets Get Rid Of Comments? |
| 11:16 | < TheWatcher[wr0k]> | No |
| 11:16 | < TheWatcher[wr0k]> | You will note it folds functions |
| 11:16 | < TheWatcher[wr0k]> | (compare the sub new { ... in the folded and sub new { in unfolded) |
| 11:17 | <@Reiver> | right. |
| 11:17 | < TheWatcher[wr0k]> | It reduces all the blocks to single lines, then you can go through and selectively open them |
| 11:17 | < TheWatcher[wr0k]> | or close them again |
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| 13:13 | < ToxicFrog|AFK> | Emacs is a decent operating system, it's a pity its text editor sucks~ |
| 13:13 | | * ToxicFrog|AFK uses NEdit. |
| 13:18 | | * Reiver is using nano! |
| 13:18 | | * Reiver finds it useful as it does exactly what it needs to do for what he does in commandline. |
| 13:18 | <@Reiver> | To whit: Get in, futz about with a text file, let me find the goddamn button to save, and then get out with a minimum of fuss. |
| 13:19 | <@Reiver> | ...Yes, its biggest selling point is that it has the basic commands written out at the bottom, saving me from having to learn anything before using. >.> |
| 13:19 | | * Reiver coughs. |
| 13:20 | | * TheWatcher[wr0k] snerks |
| 13:20 | <@Reiver> | (Hey, vi was utter hell.) |
| 13:21 | < TheWatcher[wr0k]> | (oh hell yes) |
| 13:21 | <@Reiver> | (I was trying to edit files using an editor I didn't know any keyboard commands for, and getting confused as to what the man pages were telling me because I was in a hurry.) |
| 13:45 | < ToxicFrog|AFK> | Reiver: yes, nano is handy if you don't have X11 and don't need to do a lot. |
| 13:45 | < ToxicFrog|AFK> | If you do need to do a lot, my approach is to use nano to get X11 running and then use NEdit~ |
| 14:01 | <@Reiver> | X11 being the GUI? |
| 14:07 | < TheWatcher[wr0k]> | X11 is the base of the GUI system, yes |
| 14:08 | | * ToxicFrog|AFK will explain X in detail when he gets to work |
| 14:08 | < TheWatcher[wr0k]> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System has a good description of it, although the diagram misses out a lot of detail levels |
| 14:15 | < TheWatcher[wr0k]> | http://www.sbin.org/doc/Xlib/chapt_01.html is even better |
| 14:16 | < TheWatcher[wr0k]> | http://www.sbin.org/doc/Xlib/imgs/fig.1.03.gif is a good diagram of it |
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| 14:57 | < ToxicFrog|AFK> | "sbin.org" |
| 14:57 | < ToxicFrog|AFK> | That is an awesome domain name. |
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