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| 01:56 | < Alek> | https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/368708927485116418/965352210873593876/IMG_6230-2.jpg |
| 01:59 | < Alek> | https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/419288684014075904/965408913371570216/image0.jpg |
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| 06:42 | <&McMartin> | Ugh, no brain for coding tonight |
| 07:30 | < Alek> | for Vorn whenever he comes back: https://i.imgur.com/u2oAUtT.jpeg |
| 07:46 | <&McMartin> | An old classic |
| 08:10 | < Alek> | indeed |
| 08:10 | < Alek> | I prefer the Programmer's Poem, but this is a good one too. |
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| 14:18 | < abudhabi__> | First world decisions: "Should I buy a cheap emergency UPS to plug my router into, so the wifi and internet won't go down when the electricity fails temporarily?" |
| 14:39 | <@gnolam> | Well, having to worry about failing electricity is kind of a third world problem. |
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| 15:50 | < abudhabi__> | Your electricity never fails? |
| 17:24 | <@ErikMesoy> | ponens/tollens |
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| 17:57 | < abudhabi__> | You're going to have to unpack that. |
| 18:06 | < abudhabi__> | Either that or I will have to read 40 pages of gwern's blog. |
| 18:17 | <@ErikMesoy> | One man's modus ponens (A implies B. A. Therefore, B) is another's modus ponens (A implies B. Not B. Therefore, Not A). |
| 18:18 | < abudhabi__> | Are you suggesting I think Sweden is a third world country? :V |
| 18:19 | <@ErikMesoy> | In this case: "I have to worry about failing electricity. My country is first world. Therefore, failing electricity is a first world problem." VS "You have to worry about failing electricity. Worrying about failing electricity is a third world problem. Therefore, your country is third world." |
| 18:19 | <@ErikMesoy> | Also, I meant "modus tollens" the second time I said "modus ponens". |
| 18:20 | < abudhabi__> | I see. |
| 18:20 | < abudhabi__> | Thank you. |
| 18:46 | < Alek> | the US these days IS a third world country. D: |
| 18:46 | < Alek> | but anyway, a UPS is a worthwhile investment ANYwhere in the world. |
| 18:47 | <@ErikMesoy> | Norway and Denmark are the only first world countries. ;-) I've been on vacation in England this past week and had a good sneer at things like being able to taste chlorine in the water. |
| 18:53 | < abudhabi__> | Alek: I have a UPS for my computers already. It's just the need for an extra for the router. If all else fails, I do have a petrol power generator. |
| 18:54 | < abudhabi__> | The added comfort would be minimal: no need to briefly experience a net outage, or connect to backup sources of internets. |
| 19:01 | < abudhabi__> | Another UPS seems a cost-ineffective solution. |
| 19:02 | < abudhabi__> | Would be nice if there was some sort of short-life battery-equipped charger add-on. |
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| 23:35 | < Mahal> | Failing electricity can happen in many circumstances in a first world country, e.g. storms or similar. Doesn't mean you're in a third-world location. |
| 23:38 | <&ToxicFrog> | Freezing rain can bring down the lines directly, or bring down trees onto the lines. |
| 23:39 | <&ToxicFrog> | Or, if you have underground lines, a drunken idiot can drive into the junction box for your block at 80km/h, as happened at my last house. |
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