code logs -> 2015 -> Thu, 25 Jun 2015< code.20150624.log - code.20150626.log >
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04:52
<@celticminstrel>
Okay, time to figure out how to shift columns over in my flattened 2D array.
04:52
<@celticminstrel>
...or rows. One of those. Well, both I suppose, but one should be trivial while the other's slightly harder.
04:52
<@celticminstrel>
Wait, that was the wrong way of putting it.
04:53
<@celticminstrel>
The goal here is to delete the last row/column while preserving the coordinates of all elements not in that row/column.
04:54
<@celticminstrel>
Thus, for one of those, elements need to be moved.
04:55
<@celticminstrel>
...I'd better make a diagram.
04:55
<&Derakon>
It might be best to think of it as a linear array and come up with the formula for how to shift elements in that array.
04:56
<&Derakon>
For an AxB array, linearized index i = A * x + y. When deleting a column, you reduce A; when deleting a row you reduce B.
04:57
<@celticminstrel>
My linearized index is width * y + x.
04:57
<@celticminstrel>
So I guess opposite of what you said.
04:57
<&Derakon>
Okay sure, whichever.
04:59
<&Derakon>
Point is, for one of these operations (removing row vs. column), you need to decrement each element's index based on that element's position.
04:59
<&Derakon>
For the other you just throw away the tail of the array.
04:59 * celticminstrel nods.
05:00
<@celticminstrel>
Sooo... it'll end up being something like moving back a number of steps equal to the x coordinate.
05:00 * celticminstrel is working it out on paper right now.
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<@celticminstrel>
Right, I think I've got it. Not quite ready to test yet, though.
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08:19
< ErikMesoy>
Suddenly I find myself filled with rage towards Google Documents, after coworker mailed me an excel file via the company gmail, I "downloaded" the file, and found that "download" here doesn't mean I can actually read it off disk.
08:19
< ErikMesoy>
Trying to open the "file" lying in the folder on my HD gave an error that I can't open it because connection to Google Documents failed.
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08:31
< ErikMesoy>
BLOODY THING. GOOGLE, STOP SEIZING MY FUCKING DOCUMENTS. WHEN I WANT TO DOWNLOAD AN EMAIL ATTACHMENT, IT IS GROSSLY OUT OF LINE FOR YOU TO INSTEAD GIVE ME A LINK TO THE DOCUMENT ON YOUR SERVER.
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08:44
< gnolam_>
http://i.imgur.com/FuZj2jS.jpg
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08:53
< ErikMesoy>
Godspammit, how do I tear my documents away from fucking Google Documents?
08:53
< ErikMesoy>
Ask sysadmins here to install OpenOffice?
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09:21
<@Checkmate>
Kill filetype association?
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11:10
< catadroid`>
grrr
11:10
< catadroid`>
why am I the most pedantic person here :(
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11:12
<@Tarinaky>
I want to reply with something wittily pedantic.
11:16 * abudhabi comments negatively on catadroid's lack of punctuation and capitalization.
11:53
< ErikMesoy>
Your pedantometer is miscalibrated.
11:59
< catadroid>
I meant in terms of programming, at my office
12:00
< catadroid>
amusingly I'm less pedantic on grammar in casual settings because it's more efficient not to care when chatting on phone
12:04
<@abudhabi>
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_D_Z-D2tzi14/S8TONhrAPgI/AAAAAAAACvw/zTQ0fyvjAy8/s400/A LOT11.png ?
12:06
< catadroid>
Quite.
12:12
< catadroid>
Although I suppose using proper spelling and grammar does lend one's writing a certain gravitas.
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<&ToxicFrog>
ErikMesoy: the problem is not Docs; if they actually sent you a spreadsheet, downloading it from gmail would get you the actual spreadsheet file, same as downloading it from Docs/Drive.
13:08
<&ToxicFrog>
Probably what they actually sent you was a link to the spreadsheet they created on Docs.
13:09
<&ToxicFrog>
If you want the actual file, drive.google.com -> shared with me -> right-click on it and select download.
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16:44
<@Tarinaky>
http://tinysubversions.com/notes/transphobic-joke-detection/
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16:49
< ErikMesoy>
"phobic"
16:50
<@abudhabi>
Trans-first world problems, for those beyond merely first world problems.
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16:55
< ErikMesoy>
Also: "if you're trying to serve people ads or otherwise interfere with their lives" Interfere with their browsing, maybe.
17:01
<@Tarinaky>
ErikMesoy: + abudhabi Please don't take the small joy I get from this channel away from me as well.
17:01
<@Tarinaky>
I could do without you two infecting everywhere with your nonsense.
17:02
<@abudhabi>
What? You posted the link.
17:02
<@Tamber>
Tarinaky, /ignore can be a very powerful tool~
17:03
<@Tarinaky>
abudhabi: And it was a perfectly reasonable link about perfectly reasonable things.
17:03
<@Tarinaky>
It wasn't off topic.
17:03
<@abudhabi>
I agree it's channel-related.
17:04
<@Tarinaky>
Your comments were not.
17:04
< ErikMesoy>
Tarinaky: Describing ads as interfering with people's lives does not strike me as perfectly reasonable. I have and use adblock. I still don't think ads deserve to be lumped into the same category as bans on possessions of [insert object of choice] which is what comes to mind when I hear the phrase "interfere with people's lives".
17:05
<@abudhabi>
However, 'reasonable' kind of goes out the window when someone ascribes athropoid properties (such as *phobias) to an entity devoid of sapience or sentience.
17:05
<@abudhabi>
+n
17:06
<@Tarinaky>
Speech/communication/writing is an inherently human-like property.
17:07
<@abudhabi>
Being a mindless robot is not.
17:08
<@Tarinaky>
Arguing over whether something has a property or whether it only has the apperance of having property is outside the realms of software eng and entering the realms of cognitive philosophy.
17:08
<@Tarinaky>
Or, alternatively, you just want to pick a fight over pro-LGBT language in which case you're just trying to shit on me.
17:08
<@Tarinaky>
Which is very much not in the topic so fuck off.
17:09
<@Tarinaky>
Pick one and shove it up your bigoted arse you toad.
17:09
<@abudhabi>
You're the one picking a fight now. I simply commented on the silliness I perceived.
17:09
< ErikMesoy>
Lolwut?
17:09
< ErikMesoy>
If I posted a link here to the Pope's encyclical on using technology to bring Christ to the world I would expect various "bronze age superstition" and "invisible sky daddy" jokes. Would the authors of those jokes be, in your opinion, picking a fight?
17:11
<@Tarinaky>
I'm pretty sure I have, in fact, linked to articles on the appropriate latin word for tweet before.
17:12
<@Tarinaky>
Without any need for those jokes you expect from anyone.
17:12
<@Tarinaky>
Also, it's probably worth pointing out that you're not actually either the Pope, or Catholic.
17:12
<@celticminstrel>
Why is that worth pointing out?
17:13 * celticminstrel smacks Firefox. Stop hanging! ><
17:13
<@Tarinaky>
celticminstrel: Because I'm transgender.
17:13
<@abudhabi>
celticminstrel: Because he's trans, and is on record to saying that not being trans is tantamount to having one's opinion about transsexualism to inferior to the opinion of someone who is.
17:13
< ErikMesoy>
Tarinaky: But you aren't Darius Kazemi. And AD is Catholic.
17:13
<@celticminstrel>
Oh, fun.
17:14
<@abudhabi>
(I am paraphrasing; not a direct quote.)
17:15
<@Tarinaky>
Yeah, you got my gender wrong for one.
17:15
<@Tarinaky>
I assume on purpose.
17:16
<@abudhabi>
What does that have to do with anything?
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17:17
<@celticminstrel>
...
17:17
<@Tarinaky>
celticminstrel: If you disagree feel free to unban them.
17:17
<@Tarinaky>
I'm going home.
17:17
< ErikMesoy>
Tarinaky: TBF, you have a long history of "I'm gay, no, I'm bi, no, I'm trans" in #dnd so I wouldn't assume that it's on purpose. He could just not have been paying attention to how your struggles were currently manifesting themselves.
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< abudhabi>
Thanks.
17:29
<@gnolam>
Oh FFS. Is #Code going to turn into a drama channel as well?
17:39
< ErikMesoy>
Let's not. I am building and planning a new desktop, because my current laptop is several years old and starting to stutter and overheat on stuff, and I want my next computer to be fortified both in the literal sense and in the sense of capability.
17:40
< ErikMesoy>
What do you guys advise me to avoid of "known bad" producers and brands who put out fragile components that do stuff like crack physically or get storage space corrupted electronically?
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<@[R]>
Man, it seems like he'd just have an easier time detecting sexist headlines. Since that's the root issue.
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20:09
<@celticminstrel>
...why are there three versions of my program in Activity Monitor that don't die from kill -9. :|
20:12
<@celticminstrel>
They're stuck on _dyld_start...
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20:32
<@celticminstrel>
Well, at least those seem to be exceptional cases. Usually it dies when I tell it to.
20:56
<@starkruzr>
so, once again, thanks to everyone for helping me out yesterday.
20:57
<@starkruzr>
I appear to be back in work's good books.
21:51
<@Checkmate>
What happened yesterday?
21:51 * Checkmate is a bit out of the loop due to disease.
21:52
<@starkruzr>
oh, #code helped me write a PHP + MySQL app for an inventory thing.
21:52
<@starkruzr>
also.
21:52
<@starkruzr>
this is only tangentially related here I guess, but why doesn't this work in my script? mysqldump -u backupman -pbackupman â-all-databases âroutines| gzip > file.gz
21:52
<@starkruzr>
I swear to god --all-databases is a legit option, but it complains mysqldump: Got error: 1049: Unknown database 'â-all-databases' when selecting the database
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--- Log opened Thu Jun 25 21:57:59 2015
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21:58
<@[R]>
starkruzr: because your command is tainted with a disease
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21:58
< starkruzr>
that does not help me :P
21:58
<@[R]>
<starkruzr> this is only tangentially related here I guess, but why doesn't this work in my script? mysqldump -u backupman -pbackupman â-all-databases âroutines| gzip > file.gz
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21:58
<@[R]>
mysqldump -u backupman -pbackupman --all-databases --routines
21:59
< starkruzr>
wait
21:59
< starkruzr>
the -
21:59
< starkruzr>
that's it?
21:59
<@[R]>
The disease, yes.
21:59
< starkruzr>
mysqldump -u backupman -pbackupman â-all-databases --routines | gzip > ./test.gz produces the same error.
22:00
<@[R]>
That has the disease still
22:00
< starkruzr>
;_;
22:01
<@[R]>
Try manually typing the command, instead of copypasting it from wherever you got it.
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22:02
<@gnolam>
starkruzr: looks like one of the dashes isn't an ordinary dash.
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<@gnolam>
â-all-databases <- the first character there
22:04
< starkruzr>
GAH
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22:07
<@Checkmate>
I jokingly suggested McM to get a RNN to help him debug code yesterday. This particular issue seems like the one it would be good at detecting. It'd go "I don't understand 'â' is it right?"
22:08
<@[R]>
RNN?
22:08
<@Checkmate>
Recurring Neural Network.
22:08
<@Checkmate>
Recurrent *
22:11
<@simon>
they seem so badass. I want to get into them ASAP.
22:12
<@simon>
Andrej Karpathy wrote a pretty decent "hacker's guide" to them: http://karpathy.github.io/2015/05/21/rnn-effectiveness/
22:12
<@simon>
some guy used them to generate magic cards. that was awesome: http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/creativity/custom-card-creation/612057-genera ting-magic-cards-using-deep-recurrent-neural
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