| --- Log opened Thu Dec 15 00:00:17 2011 |
| --- Day changed Thu Dec 15 2011 |
| 00:00 | < TheWatcher> | projecteuler.net isn't resolving, for a start... |
| 00:03 | <~Vornicus> Yeah. Makes me wonder what dfeojm is doing differently. If it's caching DNS then it's engineered wrong. |
| 00:04 | | * Derakon must go, will be back later. |
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| 00:04 | < TheWatcher> | AFAICT it should be on 95.154.244.24, but that's not responding to connection attempts on http |
| 00:04 | <~Vornicus> that's pretty good too. |
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| --- Log closed Thu Dec 15 04:07:30 2011 |
| --- Log opened Thu Dec 15 04:07:39 2011 |
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| 06:59 | < AnnoDomini> | http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=1456 |
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| 16:16 | < Derakon> | Bahfoo. |
| 16:16 | < Derakon> | Get in to work, pull laptop out of backpack, turn it on, "click...click...click...click...click..." |
| 16:16 | < Derakon> | Dead hard drive. :( |
| 16:17 | < ErikMesoy> | That's gotta suck. |
| 16:17 | < Derakon> | Fortunately I have external backups of my main work. |
| 16:17 | < iospace> | CLICK OF DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM |
| 16:17 | < Derakon> | I'll still lose all of my test datafiles, my dev environment, the music I'd copied over from my home machine... |
| 16:21 | < Derakon> | Hmph, $1100 for a new baseline Macbook Pro. |
| 16:21 | < Derakon> | Or $950 for the Air with a 64GB SSD and a measily 2GB RAM. |
| 16:21 | < Derakon> | (Upgrading the RAM to 4GB costs another $90, right!) |
| 16:22 | | * Tarinaky nosecolas. |
| 16:22 | | * Tamber offers a tissue? |
| 16:34 | < Derakon> | On the plus side, I'm used to operating with only 80GB of storage space... |
| 16:44 | < iospace> | Derakon: what about a non-mac? |
| 16:44 | < Derakon> | Most of my users are Mac users. |
| 16:44 | < iospace> | oh |
| 16:44 | < iospace> | fair enough then |
| 16:45 | < Derakon> | Also I'd be driven steadily insane. >.> |
| 16:45 | < Derakon> | (Well. Linux would probably work OK, but I have a low tolerance for fiddling with my computer) |
| 16:45 | < iospace> | short trip if you're not there already :P |
| 16:45 | < Derakon> | :p |
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| 16:49 | < Derakon> | Time to find out if my boss will let me expense a laptop for the OS he doesn't believe can be used for serious science. |
| 16:49 | < Derakon> | Mind you, this despite the fact that everyone around him is using that OS for science and they aren't exactly wearing clown makeup. |
| 16:49 | | Syloqs_AFH is now known as Syloqs-AFH |
| 16:49 | < Tamber> | Ah, but are they using it for !!science!!; the burning makes all the difference! |
| 16:50 | | * iospace snickers |
| 16:50 | < iospace> | Tamber: no giant pits of doom? |
| 16:51 | < Derakon> | I'm guessing "clown makeup" -> "clowns" -> "DF-style demons" -> "oh gods the burning"? |
| 16:52 | < iospace> | ONE DOES NOT SIMPLY LOAD UP THE CLOWN CAR, ONE UNLEASHES IT |
| 17:02 | < Tamber> | :) |
| 17:04 | < AnnoDomini> | Once, I unleashed the clowns, and defeated the first wave. |
| 17:04 | < AnnoDomini> | I then tried to close off the pits, but they sometimes came out of them, and casualties were climbing. |
| 17:05 | < AnnoDomini> | So I had to seal off the partially-covered portion of Hell. |
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| 17:07 | | * gnolam fought with AnnoDomini's father in the Clown Wars. |
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| 17:15 | < iospace> | i've never seen the clowns in person actually |
| 17:15 | < AnnoDomini> | They're deadly. |
| 17:15 | < iospace> | so the stories go |
| 17:16 | < AnnoDomini> | They really are. One of them is easily a match for a dwarven weaponmaster. |
| 17:17 | < Derakon> | Back in the old days someone brought together the legendary captain from a succession fort and a dwarf who had manually achieved Legendary in every single skill; between the two of them they couldn't manage to kill more than a half-dozen Spirits of Fire. |
| 17:17 | < Derakon> | Nowadays, who knows? |
| 17:19 | < AnnoDomini> | I'm inclined to say that they won't manage better than normal weaponmasters. |
| 17:20 | < AnnoDomini> | I use only the best; they are trained with Maximum Danger Rooms. |
| 17:20 | < iospace> | Derakon: my fort doesn't have a clowncar under it, but i have a military of 5... which does nothing |
| 17:20 | < AnnoDomini> | What do you mean, no clowncar? Did you mod adamantine out? |
| 17:21 | < AnnoDomini> | (Or something. AFAIK, it's almost impossible not to have a clown car now.) |
| 17:21 | < iospace> | back in 40d not every place had adamantine |
| 17:22 | < AnnoDomini> | Ah, you're playing 40d. |
| 17:22 | < AnnoDomini> | I was talking about DF2010. |
| 17:22 | < iospace> | i can't be assed to play 2010 |
| 17:45 | < gnolam> | Same here. |
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| 18:28 | | * Derakon eyes Apple's laptop store. |
| 18:28 | < Derakon> | Man, these prices just don't make any kind of sense. |
| 18:28 | < AnnoDomini> | It's Apple. What do you expect? |
| 18:28 | < Derakon> | I mean, disregarding the baseline cost, you can pay $X for a 13" laptop, or $X+600 for a 15" laptop with indentical stats except the CPU is slightly slower. |
| 18:29 | < Derakon> | ...oh, wait, nemmind. |
| 18:29 | < Derakon> | The 15" has a quad-core CPU, the 13" is dual-core. |
| 18:29 | < Derakon> | So that explains that. |
| 18:31 | < iospace> | i don't think it justifies 600 bucks though... |
| 18:32 | < Derakon> | Well, sure, there's the Apple Tax. |
| 18:32 | < Derakon> | Oh, there's also an actual graphics card in there. |
| 18:32 | < Derakon> | Dunno how I missed that bit. |
| 18:32 | < Derakon> | AMD Radeon HD6750M / 512MB. |
| 18:33 | < iospace> | ok |
| 18:33 | < iospace> | then it's a little more justified |
| 18:35 | < Derakon> | Still, most of my work is singlethreaded and I hardly ever need hardware acceleration on my lappy. |
| 18:35 | < Derakon> | That's the "I want to play WoW" laptop. |
| 18:38 | < Derakon> | So I guess the remaining question is: 500GB / 5400RPM HDD, or 128GB SSD? |
| 18:38 | < Derakon> | (Again remembering that my current lappy has a hard drive capacity of a mere 80GB) |
| 18:38 | < Derakon> | (And the SSD costs $180 more than the HDD in that choice) |
| 18:46 | < iospace> | here's the better question |
| 18:47 | < iospace> | do you need an SSD |
| 18:47 | < Derakon> | Well, it'd make the laptop lighter, faster at loading, more durable, and longer-lasting battery-wise. |
| 18:48 | < Derakon> | Buuuut I think I'm going to save $170 vs. the baseline by buying a refurb instead. |
| 18:48 | < iospace> | so it would only be 10 bucks more? |
| 18:48 | < Derakon> | No, you can't customize refurbished machines. |
| 18:49 | < Derakon> | Well, you can, but Apple won't. |
| 18:49 | < iospace> | ah |
| 18:49 | | * iospace shrugs, not her money :P |
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| 18:55 | | * iospace explodes linux |
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| 19:07 | < gnolam> | Huh, Sumatra's actually become decent. |
| 19:07 | | AnnoDomini is now known as Number3 |
| 19:16 | < gnolam> | (As in: it's no longer slow as ass but now rather snappy, it no longer crashes when you zoom in too far (haven't seen a crash so far, actually), and text selection is finally /sane/) |
| 19:16 | < Derakon> | Ahh, a PDF reader. |
| 19:18 | < gnolam> | ... yeah, I wasn't planning on moving to Indonesia any time soon. ;) |
| 19:18 | < Number3> | How about visiting? |
| 19:18 | < gnolam> | Wouldn't mind. |
| 19:19 | < gnolam> | Only been to Bali, which isn't very representative for Indonesia as a whole. |
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| 21:13 | | * iospace blarghs, somehow caused overrun errors on a serial device |
| 21:16 | < Derakon> | ...Project Euler is still down? |
| 21:25 | < TheWatcher> | Seems to be :/ |
| 21:26 | < Tamber> | Apparently. |
| 21:30 | | * jerith stabs the mediawiki API in the groin. |
| 21:30 | < TheWatcher> | ? |
| 21:36 | < jerith> | It's messy. |
| 21:36 | < jerith> | And not particularly well documented. |
| 21:36 | < Tamber> | You expected otherwise? |
| 21:36 | < Tamber> | I mean, it's /mediawiki/. |
| 21:36 | < jerith> | Well, I thought I was using the correct API. |
| 21:37 | < jerith> | "action=opensearch" |
| 21:37 | < jerith> | What I /actually/ want is "action=query&list=search". |
| 21:38 | < jerith> | And this is incredibly obvious if you (a) know how the API evolved historically and/or (b) know what OpenSearch actually is, and why it isn't what you want. |
| 21:39 | < Derakon> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ZWDvUSDchart.png |
| 21:40 | < Derakon> | Shown: the exchange rate from Zimbabwean dollars to US dollars. |
| 21:40 | < Derakon> | Note the exponential curve. |
| 21:40 | < Derakon> | Note the logarithmic scale. |
| 21:40 | < iospace> | ... |
| 21:41 | < ErikMesoy> | o_O |
| 21:42 | < ErikMesoy> | Huh. Halfway through 2007 it seems to go down for a bit. I wonder what happened there. |
| 21:43 | < jerith> | ErikMesoy: That might be when they started lopping zeros off the end. |
| 21:45 | < jerith> | Actually, it looks more like a spike that corrected itself. |
| 21:53 | < McMartin> | I like how there are sites where you can purchase ONE HUNDRED TRILLION DOLLARS as a gag gift. |
| 21:54 | < gnolam> | Shall we say one million American A-HA! |
| 21:55 | < Number3> | Oh god, that video. XD |
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| 22:40 | < Number3> | http://bash.org/?945825 |
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| 22:44 | < gnolam> | Heh |
| 22:46 | < celticminstrel> | Exponential curve on a logarithmic scale means a linear increase, right? |
| 22:47 | < jerith> | Other way around. |
| 22:48 | < celticminstrel> | Oh. |
| 22:49 | < celticminstrel> | So then that's a faster than exponential increase? |
| 22:49 | < jerith> | Very. |
| 22:50 | < gnolam> | Depends on which axis is logarithmic. In this case, it's the y-axis. |
| 22:52 | < celticminstrel> | So kinda like exp(exp(x))? |
| 22:52 | < jerith> | Yup. |
| 22:52 | < celticminstrel> | Zimbabwe presumably has major problems then, eh? |
| 22:53 | < jerith> | Quite. |
| 22:54 | < Number3> | I think that's an understatement. |
| 22:54 | < celticminstrel> | Heh. |
| 22:54 | < jerith> | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1EX--vdxh4 |
| 22:54 | < jerith> | That ad had to be taken off the air for legal reasons. |
| 22:56 | < Number3> | It's hilarious. |
| 22:56 | < gnolam> | jerith: :D |
| 22:57 | < jerith> | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-16000522 |
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