| --- Log opened Wed Sep 07 00:00:37 2011 |
| 00:01 | < kwsn> | gnolam: my name is not sven, it's alexandria xD |
| 00:01 | < kwsn> | it's a joke |
| 00:05 | < gnolam> | Ah. |
| 00:05 | < gnolam> | So... made your own library yet? ;) |
| 00:05 | <@McMartin> | Those filthy heathens keep burning it down |
| 00:05 | < gnolam> | (Bonus points if you did long ago, so you can call it your Ancient Library!) |
| 00:21 | < RichardBarrell> | gnolam: that took me a minute to get. |
| 00:21 | < RichardBarrell> | Given that this is #code, I was thinking "alexandria.so, what?" |
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| 00:59 | <@McMartin> | .so what, eh? |
| 01:07 | < RichardBarrell> | I hadn't thought of that either. I'm slow today. |
| 01:07 | < RichardBarrell> | McMartin: also, I used to use "MyCatVerbs" on IRC, but have never used the nick "simon". :) |
| 01:09 | < RichardBarrell> | McMartin: <McMartin> Ah, so I do. I had you confused with the Simon who also went by MCV. <- I think "MCV" was me, unless there was another MCV inhabiting nightstar at one point. :) |
| 01:11 | < RichardBarrell> | <McMartin> Can you use the form op@(Add e1 e2) and then use "op" as the reference to the whole thing, or does that trick only work on lists? <- yes you can absolutely do that with any pattern match in Haskell. |
| 01:13 | < RichardBarrell> | In case statements, in function definitions, wherever. |
| 01:14 | < RichardBarrell> | case x of { jx@(Just x) -> jx; Nothing -> Just 0; }, things like that. |
| 01:14 | <@McMartin> | Yeah, OK, I've got my nick history confused, don't mind me :D |
| 01:22 | < RichardBarrell> | McMartin: also the Haskell information was just payback to you an ToxicFrog for teaching me Scheme. ;) |
| 01:22 | < RichardBarrell> | *and |
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| 06:29 | <@Tarinaky> | Why can't I find a function that returns a sphere's geometry :/ |
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| 07:04 | < Vornicus> | "sphere's geometry"? |
| 07:05 | < Vornicus> | What do you want this "geometry" to look like? |
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| 10:43 | <@Tarinaky> | Aww, maximum recursion depth. |
| 10:48 | | * Tarinaky has... no idea what's wrong with his code o.o |
| 10:48 | <@Tarinaky> | But it is, indeed, producing an infinite loop. |
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| 14:50 | < gnolam> | Hmm. Accidental or intentional irradiation, that is the question. |
| 15:01 | < gnolam> | (I.e. "finish up the editor or start on the DICOM thingy") |
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| 15:41 | < Attilla> | well you can use intentional irradiation to sterilise food? |
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| 17:51 | < gnolam> | Attilla: ... yees? |
| 17:53 | < Attilla> | just pointing that out! hth |
| 18:02 | < gnolam> | (Food irradiator sources are nasty, BTW. Thankfully, they don't actually seem to get lost that much (at all?), unlike e.g. industrial radiography/measurement sources.) |
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| 20:38 | | * Derakon amuseds. |
| 20:38 | < Derakon> | My boss is a Respected Member of the Academic Community. |
| 20:38 | < Derakon> | (Most of whom don't deal with him in person) |
| 20:38 | < Derakon> | So when he publishes op-ed papers arguing against backscatter devices in airports, people listen. |
| 20:38 | < Derakon> | We just had PBS send an interview team here. |
| 20:39 | < Derakon> | And they did some shots of the microscope "in action", including the computers involved. |
| 20:39 | < Derakon> | ...which included one saying "This copy of Windows is not genuine"... |
| 20:39 | < Derakon> | (Because we haven't reported ourselves to Microsoft yet, and I can't right now because the computer lacks a line to the outside anyway) |
| 20:41 | <@Tamber> | ...haha |
| 20:43 | < gnolam> | Haha |
| 21:14 | <@McMartin> | Fucking backscatter devices. |
| 21:16 | < gnolam> | Mmm. |
| 21:18 | < Derakon> | Yeah, this is one area where boss doesn't bother me at all. |
| 21:20 | | * McMartin shoryukens curl. |
| 21:20 | <@McMartin> | My flowchart isn't working! :( |
| 21:24 | < Derakon> | (In related news, there is a small but nonzero chance that I could show up on the PBS Newshour) |
| 21:28 | <@McMartin> | Yay |
| 21:31 | < gnolam> | Otherwise, it's rather depressing when journalists interview scientists. |
| 21:31 | < gnolam> | For example, if you're a chemist, you have to have beakers full of colored liquids behind you. |
| 21:33 | < gnolam> | And this is for /respectable/ programs and channels. |
| 21:33 | <@McMartin> | You can't interview a scientist without sciencing up the joint first. |
| 21:33 | < gnolam> | Radiation physicists are supposed to fiddle with complicated-looking equipment, IIRC. |
| 21:34 | < Derakon> | Really it's not worth correcting the public's view of how awesome scientific workplaces are. |
| 21:34 | < Derakon> | It doesn't really matter and the cool backgrounds help keep them interested in the interview. |
| 21:34 | <@McMartin> | You should wear an HEV. |
| 21:35 | < gnolam> | Doctors can get away with just walking through a corridor in their lab coats. |
| 21:35 | < Derakon> | There's a sign on the door to the microscope warning about lasers, toxic chemicals, and mouse tumors. |
| 21:35 | < Derakon> | Gnolam: most people meet a doctor in real life at least once a year. |
| 21:37 | < Derakon> | So their expectations are a bit more realistic. |
| 21:38 | < gnolam> | WARNING: AWESOME EQUIPMENT INSIDE |
| 21:40 | < Simon_Shine> | I'd wear protective gear. the interviewer would ask me "So, as a computer scientist, why do you have fireproof gloves?" |
| 21:40 | < Derakon> | In case the keyboard catches fire because I'm typing too fast. |
| 21:40 | < Derakon> | I actually do wear notch filter goggles sometimes if my coworker is fiddling with the lasers. |
| 21:40 | < gnolam> | Simon_Shine: it should be NBC gloves. So you could reply "viruses". |
| 21:41 | < Derakon> | (notch filter -- discard all light of a specific wavelength or set of wavelengths) |
| 21:41 | <@McMartin> | Anti-That-Laser-Over-There, eh? |
| 21:41 | < Derakon> | Pretty much. |
| 21:41 | <@McMartin> | That's p. awesome. I didn't know you could do optical protection that precisely. |
| 21:42 | < Derakon> | Of course they're limited in how much they can handle. Shine one of those moronic 1W lasers that Wicked Lasers is selling at one of these and I doubt it'd survive. |
| 21:42 | < gnolam> | McMartin: it's pretty much how all laser safety goggles are designed. |
| 21:42 | <@McMartin> | I keep wishing Wicked Lasers would suffer tragically debilitating industrial accidents. |
| 21:43 | < Derakon> | No, that's just the people next to their clientele. |
| 21:43 | <@McMartin> | Right. |
| 21:43 | <@McMartin> | I want karma to be more immediate, and to go one level up the chain. |
| 21:43 | < gnolam> | (If they weren't selective, the goggles would either leave you completely blind or you wouldn't need goggles in the first place.) |
| 21:43 | <@McMartin> | (Don't you mean, 'or the goggles, they would do nothing'?) |
| 21:43 | <@McMartin> | Companies whose sales pitch is WE ARE HEINOUSLY IRRESPONSIBLE WOOOOOOOOO deserve to directly reap the consequences thereof. |
| 21:43 | < Derakon> | Really you need to treat class 3+ lasers like you do firearms -- education, licensing, and lockboxes. |
| 21:44 | < Derakon> | But then nobody would buy them of course~ |
| 21:44 | <@McMartin> | More than firearms; firearms can be safely disassembled. =P |
| 21:45 | <@McMartin> | And while disassembled, all components are harmless except as choking hazards. |
| 21:45 | < Derakon> | Unless you start disassembling the ammo~ |
| 21:46 | <@McMartin> | That's not what "storing a firearm disassembled" means. |
| 21:46 | < Vornicus> | I do wonder the velocity of a cooked round, compared to a fired one. |
| 21:46 | <@McMartin> | Not Very High, IIRC. |
| 21:46 | <@McMartin> | If it cooks off, the shell casing is what goes flying, due to the fact that the momentum sum has to be zero. |
| 21:46 | < gnolam> | Mostly harmless. |
| 21:47 | < Derakon> | Cooked? |
| 21:47 | < gnolam> | Heated until it goes bang. |
| 21:47 | < Derakon> | Ah. |
| 21:47 | < Derakon> | As opposed to directly ignited. |
| 21:47 | <@McMartin> | (Cooking a *chambered* round, on the other hand, is roughly equivalent to firing it.) |
| 21:47 | <@McMartin> | (Do not store loaded firearms in the oven.) |
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| 21:48 | <@McMartin> | (Really, s/ in the oven//, but *especially* not in the oven.) |
| 21:49 | < gnolam> | Heh. Friend of mine's dad was at the receiving end of an overheating Ksp m/14 (I /think/. Could've been an m/36). |
| 21:50 | < Vornicus> | aw jeez |
| 21:50 | < gnolam> | He was out marking his soldiers' targets at the shooting range when the ammunition in one of the guns started cooking off. |
| 21:51 | < Vornicus> | Gaaaah |
| 21:51 | < Derakon> | In the magazine? |
| 21:52 | < Derakon> | Or the chambered round? |
| 21:52 | < gnolam> | The chambered round. It was belt-fed. |
| 21:52 | < gnolam> | And due to this gun's construction, this meant that it just kept firing. |
| 21:52 | < Vornicus> | Of course. |
| 21:53 | < gnolam> | Which wouldn't have been a real problem if the conscript behind it hadn't dropped it out of surprise. |
| 21:53 | < Derakon> | Ugh. |
| 21:53 | < Vornicus> | gaaaaah |
| 21:53 | < gnolam> | Meaning that it sat on its tripod spraying bullets everywhere, instead of into a safe direction. |
| 21:54 | < Derakon> | Which would be preferable here -- the ground in front of the tripod, or the sky? |
| 21:54 | < Derakon> | I'd assume the ground... |
| 21:54 | < Vornicus> | The ground, the ground, the ground. |
| 21:54 | < Derakon> | Right. |
| 21:56 | < gnolam> | All he could do was hit the deck and hope for the ammo to run out before he got hit. |
| 21:57 | < gnolam> | Which he wasn't, but apparently he could "hear the bullets whizzing past over his head". |
| 21:57 | < Vornicus> | Whew |
| 21:57 | < gnolam> | (Needless to say, he was not very happy with the machine gun crew afterwards.) |
| 21:58 | < Vornicus> | (naaaaaaw) |
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| 22:45 | | * Derakon mutters at SWIG and this third-party library. |
| 22:47 | < Derakon> | The third-party library for remapping perfectly good types to their own names (e.g. wchar_t -> AT_WC), and SWIG for not recognizing them after this happens. |
| 22:47 | < Derakon> | Despite the claim in SWIG's documentation that it will reverse-traverse the typemap heirarchy if it finds no match for a given type. |
| 22:50 | < celticminstrel> | Huh, guns in #code. |
| 22:50 | < gnolam> | Is it committing the cardinal sin of typedefing pointer types to look like non-pointers though? |
| 22:50 | | * gnolam glares at Freetype. |
| 22:50 | < Derakon> | Thankfully not. |
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| 23:42 | | * McMartin snickers in a bitter sort of way at http://crookedtimber.org/2011/09/03/american-electoral-politics-a-brief-introduc tion/ |
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